Topic Subject:Thor minor Gods vs Odin and Loki minor Gods
Cazbr Mortal
posted 24 January 2003 11:10 AM EDT (US)
Is it just me, or does Thor have a disadvantage because of his minor Gods?? To me, it seems very unfair, that he doesnt have Njord nor Heimdall. Both of his classical Gods are weak, and he cant pick the strongest Norse heroic God.
Is there any possible chance that Freyja or Forseti and Bragi or Skadi can be as usefull as Heimdall and Njord??
Right now Thors only bonus is his speed and his armory. You'll have to sacrifice the best GPs, Myth Upgrades/techs, and MUs if you like to play with Thor. Would he be too strong if he had better minor Gods??
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tomdude102 Mortal
posted 24 January 2003 11:30 AM
EDT (US)
1 / 8
Well, I kind of agree with you, but the right strategy can give you amazing troops with thor. I mean, thor is the only god with the best ulfsarks you can get in the whole game (and don't count Loki because thor has the armory upgrades), but I actually wish he had Njord or something.
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DeaconDragoone Mortal
posted 24 January 2003 03:30 PM
EDT (US)
2 / 8
I tell you this, I would pick Heimdall alot if he was a minor god for Thor, and Njord would be for water maps cause Thor only get the Elver. But if you look at it Freyja gives a god tech that helps Calvery, and Skadi has a god tech that helps TA,and trust me TA, are the backbone for my army mostly. I make other units has support role, and let my TA's do the main fighting.
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jwj442 Mortal
posted 24 January 2003 06:35 PM
EDT (US)
3 / 8
Well, missing out on Heimdall does hurt Thor somewhat, although with his lightning rush speed he would be probably be overpowered if he got Heimdall. Besides, imagine Ragnarok + Einherjars + Flaming Weapons. Heimdall helps you a lot with a rush, but offers few long-term benefits.
But I've gotta disagree with you about not getting Njord being a weakness. All of the Norse heroic gods are excellent, and I really can't decide which is my favorite. Bragi's ulfsark techs are not to be underestimated; fully upgraded Thor ulfsarks with the Forseti-Bragi-Tyr path are absolute beasts for their price. Skadi gives you two armory upgrades' worth of an improvement to your throwing axemen, and winter harvest is an awesome tech (it gives twice the benefit of a normal farm upgrade!) Frost has many uses, and I think flaming weapons is better than bronze. I'll take either of those GPs over walking woods any day. The battle boar is one of the best myth units in the game IMO and easily the best heroic MU, and the frost giant is also pretty nice even though I think it's the worst of the Norse heroic MUs.
On second thought, I guess not getting Njord and Heimdall is somewhat of a weakness on water maps. You don't get the naval techs or the ridiculously overpowered kraken. But Thor makes up for that with his awesome boat boom.
[This message has been edited by jwj442 (edited 01-24-2003 @ 06:38 PM).]
Cazbr Mortal
posted 25 January 2003 07:17 AM
EDT (US)
4 / 8
maybe Thor would be overpowered if he had heimdall. But it really annoys me. Safeguard, Udermine and Einherjars are great, better than most of the bonuses of Freyja and Forseti.
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I'll take either of those GPs over walking woods any day
You really mean that?? Have you ever tried using walking woods during a large battle, but far away from the army of your enemy?? They just tear buildings apart if your enemy doenst split his army. And IF he splits his army, your main army will most likely win the battle. Walking Woods is a great GP.
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jwj442 Mortal
posted 25 January 2003 08:54 AM
EDT (US)
5 / 8
I'm not saying that walking woods is a bad GP, it's quite good. But I think frost and flaming weapons are better. And remember, somebody had to miss out on Heimdall.
Cazbr Mortal
posted 25 January 2003 04:44 PM
EDT (US)
6 / 8
AARGH but why HIM!? WHY THOR!!?? ITS NOT FAIR!!! *cries*
and I dont tink I will ever agree with you that Flaming Weapons is nearly as good as Walking Woods Neither are Battle Boars as good as Mountain Giants. I think I'll have to play Loki or Odin...
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FoofmongerX Mortal
posted 25 January 2003 04:48 PM
EDT (US)
7 / 8
Battle Boars serve a totally different purpose then MGs.
Battle Boars are anti unit and MGs are siege weapons.
Flaming Weapons is at least as good as woods. It increases all human soldiers attack by 50 percent by a substanial peroid of time, more or less doubling the attack of your army.
UK_Longbow Mortal
posted 25 January 2003 06:09 PM
EDT (US)
8 / 8
Forsetti is good if you are Fast Heroing, Freyja helps Thor have the best RC in the game, both are great