What we can see is that loki is by far the most popular god right now. Also note that all norse gods have above 50% win/lose ratio and only poseidon and set have 53% and 50% accordingly from other civs. Only 22% of the players on ESO use egyptians for rated. 44% use norse and 34% use greeks. My guess is that greeks are so strangely popular cause the campaign on single player is mostly about greeks(poseidon/zeus) so many rookies choose greek gods to start playing with. What these stats tell us? That zeus/hades/ra need a little pump up cause of their low win/lose ratio. This proves how badly ra was killed on last patch since only 5% use him and they get a 45% win/lose ratio. Personally i think loki and poseidon are balanced even though they have high win/lose ratio. Very few ppl play egyptians cause i think they lack a counter unit for jarls on heroic. Especially odin's jarls. But even loki/thor jarls can beat isis/set camels on heroic with the same ammount of upgrades. My suggestion is to give spearmen/camels a tech on heroic(each heroic god to favor either spearmen or camels) that increases camel/spearman bonus against cavalry. PS This site is awsome. Its funny how badly [This message has been edited by NIB (edited 02-16-2003 @ 10:42 PM).]