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Glock_Glock
Mortal
posted 06 June 2003 04:36 PM EDT (US)         
Im sorry, but it just seems to me that whiners have become overpowered...

In all seriousness though

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General discussions about Ensemble Studios' latest game: Age of Mythology. Share war stories, meet other players, and find answers to questions about the game.


That is the damn reason for this forum...It is not for you to whine about how you lost because the enemy used a strategy and because of this the strategy is overpowered! Its not. God save the man who first taught these newbs the word overpowered, now theres threads every god damn day about things that are nowhere near overpowered..
Heres a list of threads in just the past -FOUR- days of things that people were complaining were overpowered

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cavalry are overpowered and should come in heroic age


Wow someones living in the era of AoK...ES wanted AoM to be a faster paced game ffs....why dont you understand and cherish that we will never have to play 5 hr games again?! It just style of play...also cavalry are not overpowered, even greeks now can use hoplites to counter them

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zeus (hoplites)


People are starting to complain about zeus being the most powerful or zeus being overpowered...I dont play him much but he's just a different god...people dont understand you use different strategies against different gods..zeus is easily beatable

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huskarls


Oh yes they definately need to be nerfed...way overpowered...15% hack armor jesus...they cost a ****load of wood and only come from hillforts....people are complaining because their unupgraded hippokons lose to them...if huskarls are nerfed there really isnt any point for norse to go to heroic...except seige and tcs...that can be put off for a while..

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set (post 1.06)


Somebody was complaining about set being overpowered still i believe....this is just wrong set is balanced now...ES has balanced them!

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centaur's overpowered


Centaurs, once again, this is ridiculous...its sad that people do this

  • Lose game due to certain strat
  • Come to message board and make thread
  • List out the unit's advantages and call it overpowered

EG: hypsapists counter my infantry, they're overpowered
EG: huskarls counter archers, theyre overpowered
EG: Centaurs have a special shot bonus that can kill villagers, they're overpowered!

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greek imbalance against norse


of course, greeks cant beat norse...neither can eggy...and when a norse plays another norse the game will go OOS
No dammit people like to play the norse because you can play and the game will be decided in 20 minutes max....greeks you need to get to heroic and it can sometimes take 30-40 minutes! God dammit RC spam isnt an option against greek anymore, because they have cheaper, strong as hell hoplites...Compare hoplites dying to TA's with ulfsarks dying to tox's
Hoplites 100+ HP 34 hack armor (TA's do hack)
Ulfsarks 80 HP 5 peirce armor (Tox's do peirce)
Even with the bonus damage, TA's counter hoplites worse because of armor...and toxotes are a better general unit!norse are easy as **** to beat with greek...whenever I play greek it's eggy i fear...oh wait that must mean they're overpowered

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jarls (post 1.06)


God, im not even gonna comment here...yes nerf jarls for the third time in a row, and nerf huskarls too, and nerf RC too, and make it so infantry for the norse cant build...and neither can villagers...lets see how those norse do now when they have to withstand a rush with 1 ox, 1 ulf, and 12 villagers!

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frost's overpowered


Well this wont be a problem in the next patch because norse wont have a point to go to heroic after huskarls are nerfed and jarls are nerfed again...
But come on...so many GP's counter this one..
Ceasefire
Ancestors
Walking woods, to an extent
Curse, to an extent
Bronze is bugged with frost, so it works out even better
Flaming weapons...well it doesnt but logically it should..they can melt their way out of the ice

I could go on and on...

But my point is this...people come here to whine and complain...I mean its fine if you sound educated and stuff, but the latest threads have been getting ridiculous...people who know nothing about the game thinking everything is overpowered
This board should be filled with war stories and new players learning things from more experienced players...not all the crap we have now

So, I propose we have a whiners forum...and there are no mod's for it...and they can all do their thing over there and have fun with it...
You may think im joking but im really serious...I realize that this is never gonna happen but... isis hear my plea

Also, I didnt mean to flame anyone. And Im not saying im the most educated person about the game, but at least i know the basic facts
example of what is annoying: "hoplites are overpowered! You cant counter them until you get peltasts at the mythic age if your eggyptian boo freakin hoo hoo"

And I just wrote this because NIB was gonna anyways in a few days
Baah, this isnt spam, but its probably gonna get closed anyways :/ I sounded a little too mean in this post :/ Oh well sorry

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signalfires
Mortal
posted 06 June 2003 04:44 PM EDT (US)     1 / 14       
You are overpowered and need to be nerfed.

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Share war stories

I don't know if anybody else finds this, but war stories are boring as hell!! They're one of those phenomena that are great fun to write, but nobody ever reads. Like round robins.

(sorry I haven't really read your post properly, I just wanted to get the first reply in)

Mythic_chaos
Mortal
posted 06 June 2003 04:49 PM EDT (US)     2 / 14       

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Share war stories

I don't know if anybody else finds this, but war stories are boring as hell!! They're one of those phenomena that are great fun to write, but nobody ever reads. Like round robins.

I read them, and lots of other people read them too. it's like a recorded game that u didn't have 2 download.

DarkKnight_
Mortal
(id: PW_DarkKnight)
posted 06 June 2003 04:49 PM EDT (US)     3 / 14       
Signalfire, maybe you don't read them, but many people do.

DK
Arkhangelsk
Banned
posted 06 June 2003 04:50 PM EDT (US)     4 / 14       
Glock Glock you told it right. I am with ya man!! It was about bloody time
oljb007
Mortal
posted 06 June 2003 05:41 PM EDT (US)     5 / 14       
<just standing here nodding head>

"yeah......what he said!!!"


Titans oljb007
Vanilla oljb007 (1684)

"am i a smurf if i beat you? Well, you are if you beat me" --isnt that the general idea of this game?

Newbe
Mortal
posted 06 June 2003 06:33 PM EDT (US)     6 / 14       
In short, yeah whatever.

I think taking advantages of imbalances is what strategy is. The word overpowered will come up naturally when discussing imbalances.

I don't want to read peoples AOM war stories. If it were a real battle and people were actually dieing then I'd listen and probably read it out of respect. However, this is a video game.

Honestly, the post about Frost being overpowered well it wasn't a post about that. The title was "WTF???? People think frost is overpowered." NOT Frost's overpowered.

I've never seen a set is overpowered post (post 1.06), but I'll take your word for it.

I think people are just frusterated and are hoping that they will get some good advice so they can get better. I wouldn't call them whiners if they are just asking a question on a forum.

The designers of the site made a strategy forum. What would you like people to put in the strategy forum? Good dinner recipes?


signalfires
Mortal
posted 06 June 2003 06:38 PM EDT (US)     7 / 14       

Quoted from Mythic_chaos:

it's like a recorded game that u didn't have 2 download

Yes ... a war story is almost as boring as watching a recorded game . OK let's see...

Who here likes war stories? Just answer yes/no and maybe a little bit about why. I'm not wanting to create a riot, just doing a quick poll.

Glock_Glock
Mortal
posted 06 June 2003 07:11 PM EDT (US)     8 / 14       
Yeah by the way i do realize the irony of me whining about the whiners..
If we do get a whiner's forum, I encourage this post to be moved and be the first one in there!! Maybe even make it a sticky...
I dunno, war stories are fun to read if you're in them, or if the involve good players or complex strategies, like wonder victories and such
chunky_monkey
Mortal
posted 06 June 2003 07:18 PM EDT (US)     9 / 14       
ROFL
!ZEUS! !OVERPOWERED! LOL i just beat the CRAP out of a 163+ zeus player.........then again he only had 36 villies while i had 60+
Tordenskiold
Mortal
posted 07 June 2003 04:12 AM EDT (US)     10 / 14       
I vote "yes" - we should have a whiners Forum

TORDENSKIOLD(1690-1720)

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defect
Mortal
(id: Devil Ranger)
posted 07 June 2003 06:48 AM EDT (US)     11 / 14       
lol yes, a whiners forum will be good

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hades27
Mortal
posted 07 June 2003 08:02 AM EDT (US)     12 / 14       
theres no point in a whiners forum, otherwise noone will read our posts!><

- BITE MY SHINY METAL ASS!!
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ES_Archangel
Immortal
posted 07 June 2003 12:04 PM EDT (US)     13 / 14       

.. My view.. Kindof..

Sadly I view dozens and dozens of Threads on the major forums. Some I agree are more easy and enjoyable experiece to open up.

Some where (If I could ever find it again), I wrote a set of Webmaster Rules (which include forum use), about 8/9 years ago when I had CIVII Heaven. ... Let me find those puppies and I think you will find most of the rules apply today.

but the meat of the problem to me is, "Treat people like you want to be Treated" and enjoy the community and make some friends.

- Archangel

a_screen_name
Banned
posted 07 June 2003 12:12 PM EDT (US)     14 / 14       
anyone really care? lol and yes warstorys r good
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