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Topic Subject:Thanks to the extra 5% hack armor,now RC also beat ulfsark
goodbaby
Mortal
posted 30 September 2003 07:03 PM EDT (US)         
RC:

Attack 8,HA 20%,HP 105

Ulfsark:

Attack 9,HA 30%,HP 80

1v1,it takes RC 14.29s to kill Ulf.

1v1 it takes ulf 14.58 seconds to kill RC.

Now the only unit beat RC pop effectively in classic is Hoplite,which has 1.8 slower than RC.

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EvilCat_Knight
Mortal
posted 30 September 2003 07:05 PM EDT (US)     1 / 15       
they don't get +5% hack armour. I just checked, it's still 15%

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[This message has been edited by EvilCat_Knight (edited 09-30-2003 @ 07:08 PM).]

Anyone There
Mortal
posted 30 September 2003 07:06 PM EDT (US)     2 / 15       
is this the the TT changes?
If so, RC now have SEVEN hack damage as well.
goodbaby
Mortal
posted 30 September 2003 07:09 PM EDT (US)     3 / 15       
Anyone there you are misinformed.
RC didnt get any hack damage decrease.Said like 10 times by me and 3 times by ES staffs.
SeaBass
Mortal
posted 30 September 2003 07:09 PM EDT (US)     4 / 15       
but with Thundering Hooves nerfed, RC aren't as tough when upgraded. Time will tell if it's a fair trade off

But and RC beating an ulfsark is messed up!


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EvilCat_Knight
Mortal
posted 30 September 2003 07:10 PM EDT (US)     5 / 15       
if it's about the titans, shouldn't you be posting in the x-pack forum?

Vigilance_ca
It's all about vigilance
Humans are both the smartest and dumbest organisms on the planet
goodbaby
Mortal
posted 30 September 2003 07:10 PM EDT (US)     6 / 15       
I guess you checked AOM 1.07.
I was talking about AOMX.
Anyone There
Mortal
posted 30 September 2003 07:22 PM EDT (US)     7 / 15       
Sorry, I read that post in expac discussion BEFORE it was edited, taking out the -1 hack damage.
Heh, being a RC spammer myself, I find that to be pretty funny but, I'll withhold judgement until I see the xpac for myself. Which may take awhile, cause I live in Canada...
Anyone There
Mortal
posted 30 September 2003 07:24 PM EDT (US)     8 / 15       
But now, ulfsarks do build in less than half the time, with RC building time now being 18 seconds.
ArmorPierce
Mortal
posted 30 September 2003 07:41 PM EDT (US)     9 / 15       
So? Hipps builds in 20 seconds and they are now being murdered by RC.

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TonyMontana
Mortal
posted 30 September 2003 08:07 PM EDT (US)     10 / 15       
I just lost a game as possy, wholly and totally to the fact that RC own hips. I killed more vils than he did i was on my way to heroic popped with hip/tox/hero he comes maxed with RC and a few ta, defeats my army and its downhill from there . If they are gettin boosted in expac then es is gonna get an e-mail with a big WTF on the front.

[This message has been edited by TonyMontana (edited 09-30-2003 @ 08:11 PM).]

Anyone There
Mortal
posted 30 September 2003 09:10 PM EDT (US)     11 / 15       
I've never quite understood you poseidon players.
Hey, I know my hipps get countered by raiding cavalry pop effectively so, I'm gonna just build them anyways!! Do I like to lose? Hell yes!
So, you want YOUR hipps to counter raiding cavalry pop effectively so YOU can just spam them? (sorry about turning this into another hip vs RC)
Dude, just build hoplites. Ya know, the units that actually counter cavalry...
I can also guarantee it that the norse counter for your "hoplites" suck so damn much that you really don't have anything to fear. Mix in a good handful of toxotes and you know what, those RC and TA don't stand a chance.
TheShadowDawn
Mortal
posted 01 October 2003 01:50 AM EDT (US)     12 / 15       
Anyone There: You're missing the point. Neither Hippikons or Raiders are meant to clearly win a matchup between the two. They are both 'supposed' to be mainline units that counter archers effectively. And so they should be roughly evenly matched, by pop cost anyway. Yet RC's positively rape Hippikons on a pop based matchup, meaning that a Norse player only need make one unit vs the average greek player.

TheShdwDwn
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goodbaby
Mortal
posted 01 October 2003 02:20 AM EDT (US)     13 / 15       
The worst thing is norse player also only need RC to play Norse.
They only need RC to play egypt in classic.
Greek at least can find out a unit to beat RC pop effectively.Egypt and norse cant!
I tested,Atlanteans cavalry counter works great against RC.
The karpast thing seems like get a *3 bonus against cavalry.
signalfires
Mortal
posted 01 October 2003 03:25 AM EDT (US)     14 / 15       
I thought Raiding Cavalry were being made worse in 1.07. Am I wrong?

s i g n a l f i r e s
Pascal9872
Mortal
posted 01 October 2003 10:23 AM EDT (US)     15 / 15       
RC got training time decreased in the patch and Thundering Hooves benefit was decreased.


In TT RC got more hack armor.


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