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Topic Subject:Atlantean unit testings
Lord Rivon
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posted 30 September 2003 00:42 AM EDT (US)         
Ive tested quite a few of the atlantean classical age units against ones from the other civs and found some interesting results. Cant remember the wierd names so bear with me.

The small siege engine completly owns any kind of infantry, im talking 2 shots here. This includes axemen, hops, ulfs, spears, anything. They may as well not be there. They also nail slingers but archers are able to damage them quite a bit. Cav of course will kill them but not before losing at least a 3rd of their hp (hipps, RC). However they fire a line of bolts so at 1 target only 1 hits, so over a line they will damage multiple units. They also carve up TA like they arent there. However, even tho they are called siege, do next to nothing against buildings, infact all atlanta units are weak at destroying buildings. But it has HUGE range (20) which makes it useful in attacking the TC and towers.

The anti-cav thing you get at counter baracks follows standard rules of anti-cav. But will beat ulfs and spears easy and get owned by hops. I havent run any tests on the basic anti-cav you get at the rax, but on comparing the 2 the "smaller" ersion you get at the rax has pathetic pierce amour (like 10% or something, it gets cut up) but is 5 of each res (gold/food) cheaper and has 10 less hp but more attack than its counterpart.

The ani-archers on horses will kill any ranged units and get smashed by cav but put up a good fight against inf. Mass them if your opponent likes archers, but dont rely on them.

Thats all ive tested so far, ill try the heroic units and see how they do.


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samourai iv
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posted 30 September 2003 00:54 AM EDT (US)     1 / 20       
very nice posting

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Lord Rivon
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posted 30 September 2003 01:00 AM EDT (US)     2 / 20       
But with mass typos :/

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Yohan Hoogland
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posted 30 September 2003 04:51 AM EDT (US)     3 / 20       
Good Posting, you have quality topics ATM.

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Pipalonias
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posted 30 September 2003 05:56 AM EDT (US)     4 / 20       
Yeah man... you are teh rox!!!

Btw, any Americans on here who have TT add me on oldmanpip@hotmail.com *cough*

Lord Rivon
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posted 30 September 2003 09:40 AM EDT (US)     5 / 20       
ditto

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Lord Rivon
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posted 01 October 2003 04:48 AM EDT (US)     6 / 20       
Ive now tested the classical atlanta units against each other and found this:

Balista beats any of the classical units easy, the Tamurs or w/e put up a good fight taking off hlf the balista's hp.

Murmillo will beat Tamur easily (think of ulf vs slingers)

More on heroic units later..


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samourai iv
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posted 01 October 2003 09:57 AM EDT (US)     7 / 20       
sweet!
but what's tamur?

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Lord Rivon
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posted 01 October 2003 10:14 AM EDT (US)     8 / 20       
those anti-archer horse things. The name is prolly wrong lol

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The_Destroyer
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posted 01 October 2003 12:35 PM EDT (US)     9 / 20       
Ya mean Turma?

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goodbaby
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posted 01 October 2003 12:46 PM EDT (US)     10 / 20       
Mind test Tumar and slinger?
It said slinger counters Tumar.
HAQattaq
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posted 01 October 2003 12:58 PM EDT (US)     11 / 20       
It would be nice to see some tests between Promethians and Automatons. I have a feeling that those will be among the units of choice in the classical age.

Promethians are extremely fast and could be possible for raiding but i'm not sure how practical they would be.

So far, i'm thinking Cheiroballistas/Murmillo combo.

aom dude
Mortal
posted 01 October 2003 02:56 PM EDT (US)     12 / 20       
Prometheans have 4 speed, not that fast. Their off spring has 5.5 wich is fast. I think automatons are slightly faster than the normal promethean.

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HAQattaq
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posted 01 October 2003 06:32 PM EDT (US)     13 / 20       
Automatons 3.75 meters/second
Promethians 4 meters/second

Although, Automatons do have the ability to repair/heal themselves so perhaps they would be better for raid strikes.

Lord Rivon
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posted 01 October 2003 10:57 PM EDT (US)     14 / 20       
OK ill duel them

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tiefsee
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posted 02 October 2003 00:43 AM EDT (US)     15 / 20       
I'll say it right now,

Something feels overeffective with those mini-ballista guys.

Mark_Aurel
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posted 02 October 2003 00:56 AM EDT (US)     16 / 20       

Quote:

Ive now tested the classical atlanta units against each other and found this:

Balista beats any of the classical units easy, the Tamurs or w/e put up a good fight taking off hlf the balista's hp.

Murmillo will beat Tamur easily (think of ulf vs slingers)

More on heroic units later..

Oh, really? My tests indicate that they actually only beat murmillos. They actually got beat down by katapeltes and turmae. My guess would be that the Atlantean unit relationship in classical is supposed to be roughly like this:

Murmillo -> Katapeltes/Turma -> Cheiroballista -> Murmillo.

You can paint that on your wall as a sort of rock/paper/scissor triangle, if you wish.

Now, before you scream that Katapeltes are infantry, remember that they get a bonus against siege weapons. It's in their stats.

My tests are better than yours.

Yohan Hoogland
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posted 02 October 2003 03:43 AM EDT (US)     17 / 20       
Lol, well thanks everyone for posting! Good testing has been done!

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Lord Rivon
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posted 02 October 2003 05:23 AM EDT (US)     18 / 20       
I never tested the katapeltes :P
And the turmas DO lose against balistas

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aom dude
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posted 02 October 2003 09:53 AM EDT (US)     19 / 20       
I think automata are better for destroying Forward bases. After the base is destroyed they repair the losses. They aren't fast enough to run away after a raid.

It's lame to quote yourself - aom dude
goodbaby
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posted 02 October 2003 12:34 PM EDT (US)     20 / 20       
you need 2 other human units to against 1 Cheiroballista for the cost and pop.
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