The upgraded Cyclops can beat a Battle Boar and even a Mountain Giant 1 on 1 in the x-pac! With the upgrade the Cyclops becomes very strong and trains faster.
The Minotaur gains something like 40% more hp and 50 food cheaper with its upgrade so you can save enough food for a villager. I think it has the same bonus Vs MU's as the Cyclops but is not as strong 1 on 1. The Minotaur can use its special on some MU's though.
I think both are equally good.
Shrapnel Mortal
posted 23 December 2003 07:32 PM
EDT (US)
3 / 12
cycolps will beat a minotour 1 v 1, but there will never be a rated game where a cyclops and a minatour will fight 1 v 1, that would be stupid cyclops are more expensive than minotours and thus, more powerful, but a minotour costs less, and the special ability is mroe vercitile, but unlike the minotour, the cyclops grants instant death to the unit it uses it on. since the recharge time of the minotour is faster, he can buck mroe units than the cyclops can throw, also the cyclop is SLOW! the minotour can outrun a gatherer, making it able to chase it down and knock out villie before it can run
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ArmorPierce Mortal
posted 23 December 2003 09:00 PM
EDT (US)
4 / 12
Minotaur might be the better all round unit in massed army battle situations because it's pathing is better. A lot of the times cyclops will do little to nothing except walk back and forth due to it's bad pathing.
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PhoenixBird Mortal
posted 23 December 2003 09:05 PM
EDT (US)
5 / 12
Cyclops dont beat a Minotaur 1vs1. Use editor and see.
Its because Minotaurs will be able to use his Headbutt Speacial Atackk and inflcit 60 hack damage (But against other MU´s, like they Cyclops, the damage will be multiplied)
Of course they Cyclops will damage they Mino heavy, but before he goes down he will use again his Headbutt atack again. (So he used his specil two times, near 400 damage WO counting the standard atacks)
And 1vs1 Cyclo vs Mino should not be that stupid, considering that you and you enermy are both greek, and one of them (the one worshipping Athena) will use his Mino against ur Cyclops to either prevent an early rush or rush you. Lol.
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Silk B Mortal
posted 23 December 2003 09:18 PM
EDT (US)
6 / 12
Have you ever noticed that the Minotour's head butt doesn't work against a dwarf.....the dwarf doesn't get thrown at all ...the bull bends down & all but nothing happens
at least I've never seen the dwarf get thrown.
tGo_elfjorc Mortal
posted 23 December 2003 09:36 PM
EDT (US)
7 / 12
In terms of unit alone, Minotaur is probably better.
However, when you choose a god, you also have to see techs & GP
SeaBass Mortal
posted 24 December 2003 00:22 AM
EDT (US)
8 / 12
The Mino is great and all around better, but the Cyclops is a seige unit as well and thus gets my vote.
Theris264 Mortal
posted 24 December 2003 03:09 AM
EDT (US)
9 / 12
Cyclops: only decent siege early on in the game (I almost never use catapults or petroboli, so I even use one-eyes as siege till Mythic)
[This message has been edited by Theris264 (edited 12-24-2003 @ 03:11 AM).]
Vassilis Mortal
posted 24 December 2003 04:08 AM
EDT (US)
10 / 12
Quoted from PhoenixBird:
Cyclops dont beat a Minotaur 1vs1. Use editor and see.
You are right! In vanilla a Cyclops could easily beat a Minotaur but now the Minotaur wins unless both units have their Myth upgrades were the Cyclops wins!
So, my vote goes for the Minotaur.
VAL_The_Speaker Mortal
posted 24 December 2003 08:14 AM
EDT (US)
11 / 12
and pop/cost effectively then the mino would pwn
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MyNameIsSue Mortal
posted 24 December 2003 08:53 AM
EDT (US)
12 / 12
Elder Cyclops, or "yong ong" one.
Either way, I think the Cyclops will win, unless you have some kind of background-power going.
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