Atties are not OP. People just think that way because they take 2/3 less villager micro management. So noobs will have time to do other things while playing, not just micro economy.
In fact, atties are UP past 1700. They die to villie rush. When you send one citizen to a resource, it's like sending three. It's very frustrating if play well enough to micro economy.
Oranos doesn't get much respect because of his faster turma, and his TC bonus, and sky passages. But thats about it. He doesn't have other advantages. Compared to the bonus of other cultures, oranos is nothing.Let's take Set for example. Many people say he's UP in Titans. Here are his bonuses.Bonuses:
Priests can convert wild animals.
Pharaoh can summon animals at the cost of favor. The variety of animals the Pharaoh can summon increases each time you advance an age.
Starts with a Hyena scout, additional animals are summoned at the temple on each age advance.
Slinger and Chariot Archer trained 20% faster.
Slingers have 10% more HP and 10% less hack vulnerability.
Migdol Stronghold costs 25% less.
In comparison to Oranos.Special Bonus:
Ability to build numerous Sky Passages.
Bonuses:
Shares visibility to all settlements with allies
Human Military Units move faster.
I mean seriously. Who has more bonuses?! Who has better bonuses. Set does! Better slingers. With thoth's tech, Set can train chariot archers in about 1 second. Slingers are more powerful, which means it's better for battle, not running away.Migdol Strongholds cost 25% less. That saves you 100 gold each time you build a migdol stronghold!.
This is why is think atties are UP and I don't play them. If a 1750 oranos faces a 1750 set, who the hell do you think is gonna win?! Remember, slingers counter turmas, but turmas don't counter slingers. I can just mass slingers with ptah's bullet tech and can slaughter all atlantean classical age units! Or I can go FH, go Sekhmet, and research sling of the sun tech, and then the slinger will kill all atty unit except the contarius LOL. So tell me. To all those people who say atty is a noob civilization. Tell me why?Quote:
Its just that sub 1800 Oranos has a very effective stratagy called turma raiding. Its easy to get a fast classical, slap down a few cb and turma spam. Add your prommys and valour to that and you can whip out some easy wins.
You mean sub 1700 right? I don't even use oranos turma raiding because it's too easily counter. For eggy, slingers have 4 more range and can slaughter turmas. Greek, hippkons can outrun turmas and make mincemeat of them. Or in Oranos case, hippkons can run just as fast. Norse, raiding cavalry. 6 speed. Need I say more?!
[This message has been edited by sychronizer123 (edited 04-02-2005 @ 12:01 PM).]