Well, with Isis fast heroic at about 8:00 might be okay. But with Set or Ra, it's not a good idea to mess up your economy to get elephants early in the game.
Ususally when a player does a fast heroic, it means sacrificing your economy to acheive an earlier heroic time.
Elephants simply arn't overpowered enough to make this effective. Maybe it will work if your opponent doesn't attack you early, but why wouldn't your opponent raid?
When you go fast heroic, your saying to your opponent, I'm going heroic quickly. You can't stop me from going heroic, but you can take whatever part of the map you want. I won't have map control, I will have a worse econ then you. I will make up for that by raiding successfully with camels and chariot archers. That is, if your sane.
Elephants alone are only good in an direct attack, they can't retreat! And lets face it, they suck at raiding.
So it just doesn't fit in well with any decent strat. If your going to fast mythic and seige spam with osiris, (This is Isis's strat, I don't think making elephants immediately here either makes sense, but this is different case, and I am no Isis expert.)
Damaging your ecnomony and making elephants early would be rather bad, you can't attack with them, because elephants will get slaughtered. This means that your elephants are just going to sit in your base and wait for your opponent. Your opponent ( will have a better econ) and map control. If you don't raid, that is make elephants right away, your opponent has to do something rather silly to not win. The odds will be against you.
When you go fast heroic you have to be aggressive afterwards or you might as well just resign. Making elephants early is not an aggressive strat. 3 elephants will be no match for 15 raiding cav and 8 ulfs.
Also, you can't go fast heroic and try a direct attack, it will always be beaten off by your opponents larger army.
With Isis, you can get a fast heroic and go for a nice attack. But only with Isis, and I don't think a fast Isis, ancestors + eclipse seige attack is so great, just because I'm slowly getting better against it. + I've never seen this in an expert game.
Expert Isis players seem to go Anubis + Hathor or Anubis + Nephthys vs other egypt players. I've never seen a rec of the super popular Isis cheap shot siege + ele + OS attack on age sanctuary.
I think it's because set or Ra vs expert Isis players generally involve a lot of classical fighting. Or it could be because of Necropolis, vs other Egypt players. (this is a great tech vs an egypt because the counter to MU's - which are priests cost 100 gold.) Also, because Bast's techs disappear with Book of Troth in mythic with Isis.
Regardless the post was started out like this:
" as egyptian in general how really do you get up on your feet after doing a fh"
It didn't say as exlusively Isis how do you....
All I'm trying to say is that, fast heroic doesn't really fit in with making elephants. In general you'll probably make a few eles when you get to heroic, but going to heroic early just to make elephants, sounds like a problem to me.
Why not build your economy up and fight for map control instead?
[This message has been edited by Newbe (edited 07-06-2006 @ 11:43 PM).]