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Topic Subject:Mythic age in 11 minutes as Zeusm not a good idea
Silent_Assassin7
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posted 31 August 2006 03:16 PM EDT (US)         
So, I was playing Zeus in a 3 vs 3 and i decided to go to mythic really fast. it was fun to brag about whne i was in mythic while others where in classical, BUT NEVER EVER DO IT.
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i r n00b
Banned
posted 31 August 2006 03:17 PM EDT (US)     1 / 28       
It should work in a 3v3 if you do something like this with a second TC.
Psycho_X
Mortal
posted 31 August 2006 03:28 PM EDT (US)     2 / 28       
Care to explain?
Faith
Mortal
posted 31 August 2006 05:26 PM EDT (US)     3 / 28       
Zeus fast mythic owns in big games.
a_game_a_win
Mortal
posted 31 August 2006 06:50 PM EDT (US)     4 / 28       
zeus FM owns eggy on marsh.

Reasons=

collosus should only be afraid of Pharoah

Bellephron kills a priest in 2 hits (with special)

Myrms have bonus vs buildings and all there units.

bolt insta-rapes SoO.

Only problem is if they mass Mummies, but IIRC Bellophron kills it in one hit with it's special

SSJVegetaTrunks
Mortal
posted 31 August 2006 06:53 PM EDT (US)     5 / 28       
try bolting a SoO when he's by a monument.

If an eggy player is in that position, the only hope he'd have is a wonder and titan.

a_game_a_win
Mortal
posted 31 August 2006 06:55 PM EDT (US)     6 / 28       
then you take all TC's. He will eventually slip up and bring his SoO out of it's range. Or you could always just kill the monument. Either way, raped
Pdroo
Banned
posted 31 August 2006 09:52 PM EDT (US)     7 / 28       
Yes, everyone know big team games + zeus fm is cool... y do u think it sucks.. u didnt even try to explain
TTK_GeneralNoob
Mortal
posted 01 September 2006 04:33 AM EDT (US)     8 / 28       
He must have either went Hera, or has no eco management, or vsed another Greek player. .

[This message has been edited by TTK_GeneralNoob (edited 09-01-2006 @ 04:33 AM).]

AdZyZ
Mortal
posted 01 September 2006 07:13 AM EDT (US)     9 / 28       
I'm pretty sure Myrminden don't actually get a bonus against eggys axemen, and I dont think they get a bonus vs priests/pharoahs either. Even so, they will slaughter any of these units, especially with collosus/toxotes backup.

Most isis players will not go for the SoO, and choose Thoth instead. It is even less likely that they will go for SoO when you have a bolt waiting.

Zeus is the strongest mythic force IMO.


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a_game_a_win
Mortal
posted 01 September 2006 07:16 AM EDT (US)     10 / 28       
no, myrms get bonus against axemean. Just axemen have a huge bonus vs them. And IIRC, they get bonus to priest too.
HighbulpIII
Mortal
posted 01 September 2006 10:03 AM EDT (US)     11 / 28       
What is so complicated about: "Myrmidons have bonus damage towards ALL non-greek units"

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SSJVegetaTrunks
Mortal
posted 01 September 2006 07:17 PM EDT (US)     12 / 28       
if you're defending a wonder, SoO >>>>>>>> Meteor, and the fact that you get another pharoah will also help vs greek.

Add in some myth units, get a titan, A/E.

Silent_Assassin7
Mortal
posted 01 September 2006 08:15 PM EDT (US)     13 / 28       
Sorry for not explaining, but the reason it sucked was because both my partners got no help from me and 2 vs 1 is op lol.
TTK_GeneralNoob
Mortal
posted 01 September 2006 08:44 PM EDT (US)     14 / 28       
Underworld passage and ceasefire are ideal to use here. Quick help, and stall GP.
Sam_Ham
Mortal
posted 02 September 2006 05:34 AM EDT (US)     15 / 28       
TTK_Generalnoob's specialist op strat


Sometimes you need to scare the lambs,
tell tales of evil bad wolves.
Because if there is nothing to fear,
they might think for themselves.
TTK_GeneralNoob
Mortal
posted 02 September 2006 07:48 AM EDT (US)     16 / 28       
You won't be complaining when I use the strat with you in 2v2. .
ilikepopcorn
Mortal
posted 03 September 2006 12:35 PM EDT (US)     17 / 28       
i just played agaisnt a fm the other day, and imo its almost impossibe to counter if your opponent is good with zeus. first of all its hard to know its coming alot of times until he reaches heroic which is usually under 8 minutes. i tried to fm against him to try to counter his fm which now that i think about it was a stupid idea. basically fm is really hard for eggy to counter especially if your ra. so it is a good idea
John2194
Mortal
posted 03 September 2006 07:41 PM EDT (US)     18 / 28       
Is it really possible to advance that fast as Zeus O_o?! I mean in those first 11-13 minutes you'll probally be slaughtered cause you don't have much of an army and rushers would beat you in 6-10 minutes...
Thebean
Mortal
posted 03 September 2006 07:56 PM EDT (US)     19 / 28       

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Is it really possible to advance that fast as Zeus O_o?! I mean in those first 11-13 minutes you'll probally be slaughtered cause you don't have much of an army and rushers would beat you in 6-10 minutes...

Yes, easily. In fact, a little less than 11 minutes is possible. In a 1v1 game it's not recommended, as any opponent worth his salt would have raided you, and should have an idea on what you're doing. I played a 2v2 ages ago, where a Zeus player was trying a FM. I couldn't for the life of me reach him, as his partener defended him, and mine was pap. I managed to take a TC he was building, but he took it right back. Of course, he totally did me not long after.


Meteora is a pissy bitch

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SSJVegetaTrunks
Mortal
posted 03 September 2006 07:58 PM EDT (US)     20 / 28       
What might work against a Zeus FMer as Isis:

1. Build a Titan and Wonder, get SoO with monuments around him and DEFEND DEFEND DEFEND!

2. RAID RAID RAID him as early as you can to keep him in classic/heroic. It's your only hope, and if you fail, you lose.

Yes, if you're Isis, You should probably go for #1.

But most other civs would be smart to raid raid raid him IMO.

Anyone got any other counters? BTW, I should try these sometime... I've beat one Zeus player with #1, but he wasn't as good as me so I probably would have won anyway.

a_game_a_win
Mortal
posted 03 September 2006 08:05 PM EDT (US)     21 / 28       
no isis can't do a thing. Espescially if the map is good.
Pdroo
Banned
posted 03 September 2006 09:57 PM EDT (US)     22 / 28       
quote "He must have either went Hera, or has no eco management, or vsed another Greek player."

Im sorry Hera is the godess tha gives u lighthing storm??

Whats wrong in using Zues FM against another greek???

Hadesdrew
Mortal
posted 03 September 2006 11:15 PM EDT (US)     23 / 28       
y in the world people think zeus's spacial unit(Can't spell so here goes Myliadoa)is so great it only get a 25% bouns.that like 4 attack if uped him totally.charos get 300% bouns v them do the math that is an attack of 6x3=18
18x3=54 attack(deduct aromor after)And they cost more(fanatics do even more than that it like 50% extra attack)So y does every one think they so good.

God I was the worst back then but live and learn
ilikepopcorn
Mortal
posted 04 September 2006 00:09 AM EDT (US)     24 / 28       
use them in the game and find out why people think their op.
a_game_a_win
Mortal
posted 04 September 2006 07:56 AM EDT (US)     25 / 28       
they have a multiplyer vs all non-greek and against buildings too. Plus with hephatus, it would be easy to FU them
Tomboulbouk
Mortal
posted 04 September 2006 11:17 AM EDT (US)     26 / 28       
yep , it's x2 vs building due to zeus's bonus

since they are something like "counter everything exept greek" they are fine , they also have a hight attack and hight hack armor
(making them able to 1:1 infantry that are infantry counter)

they even have their bonus vs archer and you've got that aegis shield too.

all thoose thing makes them well balanced units , if they are backed up by some gp ( restoration or bronze)


so , as there are ubber jarl , ubber ulf , 'ubber' hulf , 'uber' hersir , ubber fanatic heroes ( lolz) , there are also some ubber myrms


but only using them is still stupid )

zeus hoplites are almost the same vs greek and cost much less , are faster

harr
Mortal
posted 04 September 2006 11:44 AM EDT (US)     27 / 28       
"Ubber"...
SSJVegetaTrunks
Mortal
posted 04 September 2006 12:00 PM EDT (US)     28 / 28       
He spelled it right once, you gotta give me credit for that.
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