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ARBIT3R
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posted 17 July 2007 06:47 AM EDT (US)         
Does anyone else think that wadjets suc?
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Gadunnz
Banned
posted 17 July 2007 06:55 AM EDT (US)     1 / 28       
They spit. From behind walls. You go Ptah for cheap fields.
ricownage
Mortal
posted 17 July 2007 07:16 AM EDT (US)     2 / 28       
um..no

because they cost wood, and you only need gold to build...

and they are good vs other myth units
Holy Diver
Mortal
posted 17 July 2007 07:45 AM EDT (US)     3 / 28       
And massed they can do a surprising amount of damage. 16 attack I think, that's bloody good for a ranged myth unit (think Hamarrtrolls only have about 12)

"Well blow my Gjallarhornid! It's Skeggi Battlehands!"
AdZyZ
Mortal
posted 17 July 2007 07:49 AM EDT (US)     4 / 28       
They seem to be weak at fighting though, and they are easily killed by even ordinary soldiers..

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TTK_GeneralNoob
Mortal
posted 17 July 2007 07:55 AM EDT (US)     5 / 28       
Wadjets ->
Cons: low armour, low HP and medium speed.

Pros: regenerate, high attack, cheap cost, good range.

They are nice and cheap! And have nice range and a regen bonus to boot, making them easy to keep alive vs melee soldiers, eg. hersirs. However, their low armour and low HP means they die terribly fast vs ranged units. These guys a ROCK vs norse, they are cheap, massable, and do a nice big attack, not to mention that if you micro properly in classical the hersirs should be dead before they get to your wadjets. Wadjets particularly loose their value after the classical age, and once in heoric and the mythic age you really will not have need for wadjets unless you have spare resources lying around. They should not be used against Egyptian. Vs Atty and Greeks, they are good, but these civ's ranged heroes means that you are going to loose wadjets. Vs. Norse these guys are great for pwnage.

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Caboose_Nor
Mortal
posted 17 July 2007 08:03 AM EDT (US)     6 / 28       
Yeah, just like trolls, they are best vs norse. (or gaia ^^) And they also are almost like priests, since they are ranged and do bonus damage vs myth. Maybe they're even stronger than priests?

[This message has been edited by Caboose_Nor (edited 07-17-2007 @ 08:04 AM).]

a_game_a_win
Mortal
posted 17 July 2007 08:09 AM EDT (US)     7 / 28       
They are good, but not better than priests. Priests have like a 9x bonus vs. Myth, are massable and cost no favor (that means no monuments needed if need be). they also have no real counter.

I did not know Wadjets regenerate though
Caboose_Nor
Mortal
posted 17 July 2007 08:38 AM EDT (US)     8 / 28       
Hmm, yeah not in general, but when compared to one other priest. I think wadjets do about same amount of damage as priests vs myth.
DragonQ
SC2H Seraph
posted 17 July 2007 10:32 AM EDT (US)     9 / 28       
Wadjets + Axemen against Norse in Classical owns. A few slingers sprinkled in if you have spare wood, but you'll need that for the Wadjets.

[This message has been edited by DragonQ (edited 07-17-2007 @ 11:10 AM).]

Potato_Monkey
Mortal
posted 17 July 2007 01:37 PM EDT (US)     10 / 28       
I still prefer pestuchos as my ranged unit. 55 attk rules if in masses.
Caboose_Nor
Mortal
posted 17 July 2007 02:13 PM EDT (US)     11 / 28       
Well duh, since Petsuchos are heroic mu's and Wadjets are classical that's kind of obvious.
Squeoo
Mortal
posted 17 July 2007 02:14 PM EDT (US)     12 / 28       
a wadjet can kill a petsuchos 1 on 1
DragonQ
SC2H Seraph
posted 17 July 2007 02:29 PM EDT (US)     13 / 28       
Petsuchos' attack isn't as much as you think since it's 55 per attack, whereas most damages are in "damage per second". I think it fires every 3 seconds, meaning an attack of 18 per second.

Petsuchos are brilliant massed, as are Wadjets, but you're not going to have or need Wadjets if you're doing an FH.
Jambre
Mortal
posted 17 July 2007 02:40 PM EDT (US)     14 / 28       
i like petsuchos for their crush attack aswell (20 i think)which makes them not bad vs buildings too considering their long range

if i do make wadjets it would be no more than 3
Holy Diver
Mortal
posted 17 July 2007 02:50 PM EDT (US)     15 / 28       
I do much prefer Petsuchos (or -sobek! Damn greek translation!) simply because they rule harshly.

but still, amssed Wadjets can dela out a harsh amount of damage. The reason they have low HP and defense...they're not meant to be used where they can be closeup owned!

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Squeoo
Mortal
posted 17 July 2007 03:01 PM EDT (US)     16 / 28       
axeman + wadjets = decent classical army on norse.
Salient
Mortal
posted 17 July 2007 11:45 PM EDT (US)     17 / 28       
Any ranged MU excellent vs Norse due to the slowness of hersirs.

Just don't go far from home with them unless you have a strong enough army to win any battles. They will die in a retreat due to their own slowness.
Shanks13
Rogue Agent
posted 18 July 2007 03:17 AM EDT (US)     18 / 28       
Unless the hersir have Hall of Thanes.

ARBIT3R
Banned
posted 18 July 2007 04:28 AM EDT (US)     19 / 28       
Wadjets are slow and have no armour so massed rc could probably kill axeman and wadjets
Salient
Mortal
posted 18 July 2007 05:25 AM EDT (US)     20 / 28       
Spears + Wadjats. Maybe a few axemen not many. It works well. YOu can classic fight vs Thor/Odin or greeks like that.
yoma
Banned
posted 18 July 2007 05:53 AM EDT (US)     21 / 28       
thor always goes all RC for the first few minutes, then goes to TA and RC.

You will get raped with axes and wadgets.

scout him to see what he is making
is my only advice.
yoma
Banned
posted 18 July 2007 05:55 AM EDT (US)     22 / 28       
double post......but.....
eggy should never classical fight greek, greek have uber classical units and eggy have sucky classical units. catch my drift??
VB_WhiplashJC
Mortal
posted 18 July 2007 06:43 AM EDT (US)     23 / 28       
there is an edit button...

eggy classical units do fine if you're agressive enough to take advantage of their speed + training time. set players often classical fight.

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Squeoo
Mortal
posted 18 July 2007 10:13 AM EDT (US)     24 / 28       
thor does not go all RC beginning always...

I R NOOB who you are probably getting this from, goes RC beginning game all the time.

Either way,

40 food,
30 gold,

vs.

40 food,
50 gold,
super slow train time.

yeah you can win it if you have massed axe.. if you have extra gold/wood throw either slingers or priests in, and you now have more range too.

he's not gonna be able to train ulfs, his only quick producing unit, because they are infantry... so hes screwed, if you give him enough time, only thing he can do is up skadi and try to frost your guys and start pumping TA, which set animals (if set) + wadjets > TA
Shanks13
Rogue Agent
posted 18 July 2007 10:21 AM EDT (US)     25 / 28       
I would say that fighting Greek in classical is not necessarily a bad idea. You can pretty well guess what the army is going to consist of, and then what it will likely change to. Running off to heroic may provide elephants and stuff, but unlike other civs, Greek prodomos can pretty well counter elephants and siege towers. I wouldn't use wadjets against Greeks though, the ranged hero plus either faster Zeus hoplites, Possy cavalry, or Hades archers probably wouldn't go over so well.

ARBIT3R
Banned
posted 19 July 2007 06:34 AM EDT (US)     26 / 28       
I still find anubites or sphinx are more useful and add the extra oomph to ur weaker eggy classical troops
Squeoo
Mortal
posted 19 July 2007 12:15 PM EDT (US)     27 / 28       
Anubis = eghhh...

necropolis is a pretty cool feat. if you are going against Atty, but really... it kinda aggrivates me how weak they made him... cause mythology wise i liked him!

sure you can do an Anubis/Sekhmet/Horus for crazy uber spears... but, ptah also gives a spear upgrade...

i like anubites though... they are fun to use if nothing else.
Shanks13
Rogue Agent
posted 19 July 2007 02:43 PM EDT (US)     28 / 28       
Any good MU raiders do pretty well against Atty, and anubites jumping all over is bound to piss someone off.

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