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Topic Subject:How do you field an army with Egyption in Classical?
lokiodin
Mortal
posted 23 July 2007 07:41 PM EDT (US)         
What do I do with these three terible units: the spearman, axman, and slinger?
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DragonQ
SC2H Seraph
posted 23 July 2007 07:43 PM EDT (US)     1 / 24       
They're not terrible. They're cheap. You can tell by the Egyptians' units that they really were meant for Heroic warfare, BUT with their cheap Classical units you can pump out more units than your enemy and go raiding (Spearmen are fast). This army can be used to hold your ground, or protect TCs etc. while waiting for Heroic. As soon as you do, it's game on.

Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand.
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me.
Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back.
Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
There's no place I can be, since I found Serenity.
But you can't take the sky from me...
lokiodin
Mortal
posted 23 July 2007 07:50 PM EDT (US)     2 / 24       
I know really. These three units are not very good, and it makes me want to rush to Heroic as fast as possible! But, I need these units to defend my villys from raiders. So, if I have to make them... (sigh...)

[This message has been edited by lokiodin (edited 07-23-2007 @ 07:51 PM).]

yoma
Banned
posted 23 July 2007 07:54 PM EDT (US)     3 / 24       
to be honest, most eggy players, including myself, will not make an army until heroic. eggy players just defend themselves with free towers, a couple priests, and the free MU.

its not that the eggy classical units are crappy, its just that heroic units are better.

once heroic, get ur miggy up and start spamming elies or chariots.

if you must make some barracks units, make axe, as they have low HP, but SLAUGHTER infantry (norse rushers)
unfortunaly, it is bassically impossible to kill raiding cavavlry with those crap spears.

[This message has been edited by Yoma (edited 07-23-2007 @ 07:56 PM).]

DragonQ
SC2H Seraph
posted 23 July 2007 08:04 PM EDT (US)     4 / 24       
It is always nice to have Barracks units on standby remember - if against a Norse player, especially one that has gone for the Mythic God that has Ragnarok, having FU Axemen and multiple Barracks is important late game, even if you never use them. If you're facing heavy cavalry then you might want to go Horus for this Spearmen techs and then use them. Same for Slingers if they've gone heavy archers.

Barracks units can be useful, and it's never a good idea to have NO barracks unless you know you'll win in Heroic, but you can't really have an all-Barracks army.

Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand.
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me.
Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back.
Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
There's no place I can be, since I found Serenity.
But you can't take the sky from me...
lokiodin
Mortal
posted 23 July 2007 08:34 PM EDT (US)     5 / 24       
So, what should I do? Rush to Heroic as fast as I can? I do build about three baracks in my home town, but that's it.
IamGodric
Mortal
posted 23 July 2007 08:56 PM EDT (US)     6 / 24       
tower spam, and keep them off gold, if your quick enough, they wont make it to heroic because they wont have the gold to do so, while you eco thrives, then they will either resign due to your raids, or the fact that they have no gold. Or just do what you got to do to take their town down.
DragonQ
SC2H Seraph
posted 23 July 2007 08:59 PM EDT (US)     7 / 24       
Against Norse I'd probably get those three Barracks up and build a sensible defence force. Try to find their forward base and distrupt their building. Then get to Heroic ASAP, get a Migdol ASAP, and start kicking arse

Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand.
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me.
Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back.
Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
There's no place I can be, since I found Serenity.
But you can't take the sky from me...
Phaethon180
Mortal
posted 23 July 2007 09:51 PM EDT (US)     8 / 24       
It is quite easy to defend your base with some priests, free MU, and towers. The free towers are hugely advantaged, especially the house combo.

The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses
behind the lines,
in the gym,
and out there on the road,
long before I dance under those lights.
lokiodin
Mortal
posted 23 July 2007 09:55 PM EDT (US)     9 / 24       
I don't have Titans, so how do I do it in vanilla.

It seems Eggy was made for Heroic age, they live for it. The free tower upgrades do help alot!
DragonQ
SC2H Seraph
posted 23 July 2007 09:56 PM EDT (US)     10 / 24       
True, but this thread is about Egypt + Classical. Personally, I do an FH against almost anyone. Towers surrounded by houses, strategic walls and Priests/Pharaoh/Free MU is normally enough to stop a rush. But regaining map control can sometimes be a problem...

Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand.
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me.
Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back.
Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
There's no place I can be, since I found Serenity.
But you can't take the sky from me...
lokiodin
Mortal
posted 23 July 2007 10:12 PM EDT (US)     11 / 24       
How do I beat off a raid with no free mu and no tc in Classical? Just beat him to Heroic? Is that the ultimate goal in Archaic, to get to Heroic? Again, no Titans.
DragonQ
SC2H Seraph
posted 23 July 2007 10:34 PM EDT (US)     12 / 24       
Hmm, it's a little harder with The Titans, but you should still be able to get to Heroic. In Classical you want to get all your woodies (3-4) on building an Armoury and you should have enough resources to Advance to Heroic by the time it's built. Any villagers built in Classical should go to Gold to give you enough for a Migdol and then TC when in Heroic.

Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand.
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me.
Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back.
Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
There's no place I can be, since I found Serenity.
But you can't take the sky from me...
lokiodin
Mortal
posted 23 July 2007 10:38 PM EDT (US)     13 / 24       
Ah, makes sense, makes sense. I'll try it next time I play.
Holy Diver
Mortal
posted 24 July 2007 12:56 PM EDT (US)     14 / 24       
They're good if used right. Except spearmen, they just suck. Axemen can dish out a huge helping of pain to infantry, and if you keep slingers out of the way, they cna be surprisingly good too, even if there are no archers around. Of course, they do well against enemy archers too (and counter archers, but the counter archers tend to do better back)

"Well blow my Gjallarhornid! It's Skeggi Battlehands!"
Ubermode
Mortal
posted 25 July 2007 04:54 PM EDT (US)     15 / 24       
I beat a 1800 Isis player with spears and slings the other day , so they cant be that bad. He went full fh, and i went 3 tc classical and boomed hard. i didn't even make an army until about 10 minutes, because I didn't need to. I saw him going heroic so I just sat abck and boomed casually. I had 90 vills by about 11 minutes, and had all eco upgrades by then as well. I got heroic about 13, just as he launched his first offensive with anc ecl, 3-4 elephants and a handfull of CA. I had full armoury Spears and SLings, and a few priests and beat that back easily. I got heroic, used my own anc and ecl and won it easily.

eggy classical is awesome if you use it right. you just need really good micro.
Shanks13
Rogue Agent
posted 25 July 2007 05:36 PM EDT (US)     16 / 24       
^Apparently you are godly

DragonQ
SC2H Seraph
posted 25 July 2007 05:41 PM EDT (US)     17 / 24       
Yes, apparently...

*is suspicious*

Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand.
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me.
Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back.
Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
There's no place I can be, since I found Serenity.
But you can't take the sky from me...
Thebean
Mortal
posted 25 July 2007 06:29 PM EDT (US)     18 / 24       
ESO Usernames: DragonQ, Quircus, GaiaRush.
The same Quircus from a zillion years ago?

Meteora is a pissy bitch

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Dio is Trentin Anthony Tracanna
Dio is Trentin Anthony Tracanna
DragonQ
SC2H Seraph
posted 25 July 2007 06:41 PM EDT (US)     19 / 24       
Not that long ago, but yeah I used to use that name here.

Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand.
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me.
Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back.
Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
There's no place I can be, since I found Serenity.
But you can't take the sky from me...
lokiodin
Mortal
posted 25 July 2007 09:45 PM EDT (US)     20 / 24       
Sure it is good, if you keep making units in Classical, and your opponet is not attacking!
Lettucefolk_
Mortal
posted 25 July 2007 11:03 PM EDT (US)     21 / 24       
Omfg, Quircus. It's been ages. xD

I miss the old Aomheaven, with Etendorf, Tordenskiold, Artemisquimera, even AomOsiris (or wtv was his name)!

"He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt."
J. Heller
DragonQ
SC2H Seraph
posted 26 July 2007 10:08 AM EDT (US)     22 / 24       
lol, didn't know I was that well known...

Add me to your friends list if you want. I'm using Quircus mainly because if it all goes wrong rating wise I can fall back on DragonQ. GaiaRush is purely to test out my Gaia Fast Titan

Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand.
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me.
Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back.
Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
There's no place I can be, since I found Serenity.
But you can't take the sky from me...
Bloodshedder
Mortal
posted 26 July 2007 10:47 AM EDT (US)     23 / 24       
my ESO name is Monkeyboo2, i swear i played Gaiarush before.
DragonQ
SC2H Seraph
posted 26 July 2007 02:33 PM EDT (US)     24 / 24       
I only made it like 2 weeks ago, and I don't recognise that name.

Take my love, take my land, take me where I cannot stand.
I don't care, I'm still free, you can't take the sky from me.
Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't comin' back.
Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.
There's no place I can be, since I found Serenity.
But you can't take the sky from me...
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