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Samir_4
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posted 26 January 2002 08:39 PM EDT (US)         
explain this to us little people here wondering?


I hear it is 16 players, And so it made me think.
How will you manage to :

  • Make it 16 players Without The bad lag?
  • how will the colors go?
  • What will be the pop limit. Imagine , 16X200=3200
    Now think of the lag

    Es if you have the time , plz explain it to us

    Thanks

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    deadlydentures
    Mortal
    posted 26 January 2002 08:44 PM EDT (US)     1 / 26       
    I'm not sure how this works, but 2d is alot slower than 3d.

    Thats why.
    Also, you will find that ES rarely replies to topics that are called "ES, respond!," or something like that. Plus i don't know what the topic is about and am less likely to open it


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    InsaneCow
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    posted 26 January 2002 08:47 PM EDT (US)     2 / 26       
    Also, try searching 'multiplayer' in the search box at the bottom of the forum page. A couple of your questions have already been discussed.

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    Samir_4
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    posted 26 January 2002 10:29 PM EDT (US)     3 / 26       
    hmmi m just worried about the lag
    TheShadowDawn
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    posted 27 January 2002 04:38 AM EDT (US)     4 / 26       
    Then don't play 16 player games.

    Imagine the hassle of getting together 16 players anyway. I don't think they'll be common.


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    IV1066
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    posted 27 January 2002 11:32 AM EDT (US)     5 / 26       
    Yeah, the only time I expect there to be 16 player games is during forum parties. That will rock.
    Foe_Hammer
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    posted 27 January 2002 11:54 AM EDT (US)     6 / 26       
    or if there is a nice ladder..clan wars with 16 would rock

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    Last_Knight
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    posted 27 January 2002 12:31 PM EDT (US)     7 / 26       
    A) As mentioned before, 3D engines usually support more units on the map than 2D engines.

    B) ES programmers are working on making m-player games more officient and less laggy.

    C) 16 players games will be excellent for LAN parties, where bandwidth isn't a problem.

    D) AoM will be released in 8 months, and it will probably be played in even in 2-3 years, when many of the players will have computers/connection that will support 16 players game.

    E) 16 players = endless diplomatic options for single player scenarios .

    F) About the colors: I guess the colors won't be distinguishable like 3 players game's "red-blue-yellow", but it isn't hard to find 16 colors (what was discussed here many times).

    G) I believe 16 players games won't be so common, just because it's hard to find 16 players on the Zone who want the same conditions. But as mentioned before, it'll be nice on forum parties, etc.

    And of-course, if you think your computer/connection can't handle 16 players, no-one makes you play a 16 players game . (my 350MHz CPU won't handle 16 players for sure )



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    vladimir87
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    posted 28 January 2002 07:48 AM EDT (US)     8 / 26       
    The muliplayer is supposedly easier to set up, with less wait, and having to go back, and restarting because of droppers. So waiting for 16 players will not really be too much of a problem...

    As for lag, 3D has less lag then 2D? Is that what someone said? strange,

    Well I really would dislike any game where its excessively choppy, and Ensemble must do their best to make the game as playable as possible

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    Heaven Worm
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    posted 28 January 2002 10:35 AM EDT (US)     9 / 26       
    16 players of 3 cultures 9 deities? Not really interesting!

    The lag will kill everyone, and the internet connection speed will be another problem...

    GNon
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    posted 28 January 2002 12:48 PM EDT (US)     10 / 26       
    Worm, i think your assuming that AOM will be 'just a 3d aok with GP and MU'... i think you it's different. Take this analogy, if AOK is wide and shallow (lots of civs, same units, similar strategies) then i believe AOM will be narrow and deep (few civs, different units?, strategies up the wazzoo? )
    Alexandergreat3
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    posted 28 January 2002 01:22 PM EDT (US)     11 / 26       

    Quoted from Last Knight:

    I believe 16 players games won't be so common, just because it's hard to find 16 players on the Zone who want the same conditions.

    Yep! That's why I've changed from playing random maps to death match: I can always get more games than in RM ...and faster too . Imagine Post Olympic Age + 16 players + meteor showers = Armageddon .

    Samir_4
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    posted 28 January 2002 05:27 PM EDT (US)     12 / 26       
    I used to play RM and i had the best moments tbere. then i went on the dm and now im comin back to old faithful RM
    deadlydentures
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    posted 29 January 2002 10:13 PM EDT (US)     13 / 26       
    I persoanlly hope they have Nomad in AOM

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    IV1066
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    posted 29 January 2002 11:02 PM EDT (US)     14 / 26       

    Quote:

    I persoanlly hope they have Nomad in AOM

    I would leave burning bags of, er, chips on ES's doorstep if they remove Nomad. KoTH, DtW, WR, etc... can all be done away with, but we must have nomad!

    deadlydentures
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    posted 29 January 2002 11:12 PM EDT (US)     15 / 26       
    It wasn't in AoK i don't think, was it?

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    IV1066
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    posted 29 January 2002 11:15 PM EDT (US)     16 / 26       
    I don't think so, but it was in AoE. (or maybe RoR? I don't have a good enough memory ). The point is, it has to be in AoM!
    deadlydentures
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    posted 29 January 2002 11:19 PM EDT (US)     17 / 26       
    Huzzah!
    http://aom.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/forums/display.cgi?action=ct&f=1,2344,1,all

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    posted 30 January 2002 02:18 AM EDT (US)     18 / 26       
    I got this from another post:

    1.Navy
    2.Red
    3.Lime
    4.Yellow
    5.Purple
    6.Cyan
    7.Silver
    8.Orange
    9.Green
    10.Pink
    11.Maroon
    12.Gold
    13.Periwinkle
    14.Brown
    15.White
    16.Black

    pokethejohn
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    posted 30 January 2002 12:00 PM EDT (US)     19 / 26       
    Yeah, 16 colors..that dont look the same!

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    posted 30 January 2002 12:03 PM EDT (US)     20 / 26       
    PERIWINKLE!!!!!!!!

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    deadlydentures
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    posted 30 January 2002 12:42 PM EDT (US)     21 / 26       
    From who and where did you get those colors? out of curiousity.

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    Real
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    posted 30 January 2002 01:47 PM EDT (US)     22 / 26       
    Yeah, that would be nice to get such many different colors.

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    WhoAskedU
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    posted 30 January 2002 01:50 PM EDT (US)     23 / 26       
    i think they should have mixed colors (like the black and white, Red and Yellow) which would be cool...

    also i think they should make it where you can change what is on the hero's flag (like put a picture of your face) that would be cool!


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    Samir_4
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    posted 30 January 2002 04:30 PM EDT (US)     24 / 26       

    Quote:

    Periwinkle


    Ye-heheheh-heheh that sounds soooo Coooooolll!
    deadlydentures
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    posted 30 January 2002 04:42 PM EDT (US)     25 / 26       
    WhoAskedU, you mean like Red and Yellow

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    Kaziglu Bey
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    posted 30 January 2002 04:59 PM EDT (US)     26 / 26       
    The 16-player multi doesn't seem as likely to happen after reading the chat with mr Shelley. The issue is undoubtedly the networking load that this serverless setup generates with an increasing number of players.

    2D or 3D has nothing to do with it. It has no effect on the networking engine.

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