Quote: When on the ocean hunger harries him then the warden of the ocean opens his mouth, his lips wide. A pleasant smell comes from within, so that other kinds of fish are betrayed thereby; they swim swiftly to where the sweet smell issues forth. They enter there in a thoughtless throng, till the wide jaw is filled. Then suddenly the fierce jaws snap together, enclosing the plunder. 1) So basically, you put one of these creatures near your dock, and they will lure the fish to your fishing boats. Sounds like an excellent way to boost your boom on a water map! Quote: ...they fasten the high prowed ships with cables to the false land , and then undaunted go up into that island. The ships remain fast by the shore, encompassed by water. Then, wearied out, the sailors encamp, look not for danger. On the island they kindle fire, build a great blaze; the men, worn out, are in gladness, longing for rest. When he , feels that the voyagers are set firmly upon him, are encamped, rejoicing in the clear weather, then suddenly the ocean creature sinks down with his prey into the salt wave, seeks the depths, and then delivers the ships and the men to drown in the hall of death. 2) The turtle could have a massive bonus against enemy fishing ships, but would be hopeless against war ships. Send a turtle in amongst your enemy's fishing fleet, and see the fishermen panic and jump overboard. In Greek mythology, turtles are usually associated with I know that Bruce Shelley said that he So could Aspidoceleon be the AoM turtle and should he work in either/both ways that I described?