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Topic Subject:FH gods - Isis Vs Ra
Marclo40
Mortal
posted 19 July 2009 07:39 PM EDT (US)         
This is a topic that has been on my mind for some time
who is the best and for what situations
I used to use Isis a lot when learning to play the game because of her easy to play style and adaptability
but then the FH strategy started to look very attractive and I started using Ra, Ra seemed like a purely FH god due to his chariot and camel bonus.

Both gods seem like good Fh gods, but which one would you say is better, Ra may be meant to FH, but I have heard so many people say Isis is so much better and Op.
some issues include
- Food or Gold boost Gp
- cheaper techs or priest empowering
- better/cheaper monuments or Gp blocking
- better CA and CAms or cheaper/ faster obelisks
- besides ecilpse + ancestors, is Nemph really a good choice
- Isis can't get Ptah or Sek
- Ra can't get Nemph or Thoth
- Skin of Rhino or flood of Nile Tech

Who do you think is a better FH god?
and please stay on topic
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Major_Rackham
Banned
posted 19 July 2009 08:06 PM EDT (US)     1 / 19       
Both. Do you not play online or something?

[This message has been edited by Major_Rackham (edited 07-19-2009 @ 08:07 PM).]

Marclo40
Mortal
posted 19 July 2009 10:10 PM EDT (US)     2 / 19       
I just want to see other people's opinions
I know they are very similar and I play Isis/Ra about the same amount, but I do notice that Isis seems to be more popular on ESO
Perhaps people could try to convince me to play as their favorite more
Nick The Hun
Mortal
(id: Nick_The_Hunn)
posted 20 July 2009 03:06 AM EDT (US)     3 / 19       
It's a very hard choise indeed, both are very strong FH gods.
I first did Isis when i tried out Egyptian, but Ra sucked me in now i just love him with Ptah and Sekhmet.

I must mention, my Ra Ptah eco is always better than a Isis Bast eco.

[This message has been edited by Nick The Hun (edited 07-20-2009 @ 03:06 AM).]

cactuarpwn
Mortal
posted 20 July 2009 03:46 AM EDT (US)     4 / 19       
isis has a/e, gg

(makes taking that gold mine much easier)

Watch our souls fade away
Let our bodies crumble away
Nirwanda
Mortal
posted 20 July 2009 03:48 AM EDT (US)     5 / 19       
Ra's biggest weakness compared to Isis is his disadvantage in securing second gold against agressive gods.

Isis has A/E and monument protection which helps alot to accomplish this, Ra lacks this which means that in match-ups Ra is actually forced to pull off some sort of classical fight to get to heroic in decent enough shape. And Ra has arguably the worst classical fighting of all gods.

Also, prosperity > rain.

"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"

Gandalf - JRR Tolkein. The Fellowship of the Ring

[This message has been edited by Nirwanda (edited 07-20-2009 @ 06:27 AM).]

Rains
Mortal
posted 30 July 2009 08:10 PM EDT (US)     6 / 19       
rain>>>prosperity

also skin of the rhino ftw

only thing good about isis is a/e and thoth and ra has no nepththys priests

<--- made you look

[This message has been edited by Rains (edited 07-30-2009 @ 08:12 PM).]

buppy
Mortal
(id: pubby8)
posted 30 July 2009 09:33 PM EDT (US)     7 / 19       
2+ Ra's on a team is like super rain. One goes ptah-sek, other goes bast-hathor. I'd say it'd beat 2 isis.
HailToTheOboe
Bitten by a radioactive ostrich
posted 30 July 2009 10:02 PM EDT (US)     8 / 19       
Nirwanda
Mortal
posted 30 July 2009 11:50 PM EDT (US)     9 / 19       
rain>>>prosperity

No.

"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us"

Gandalf - JRR Tolkein. The Fellowship of the Ring
Rains
Mortal
posted 31 July 2009 02:16 AM EDT (US)     10 / 19       
use your rained food to eclipse + scarab

<--- made you look
A_PunK
Mortal
posted 31 July 2009 03:28 AM EDT (US)     11 / 19       
You can use prosperity in soooo many more ways than rain, don't be biased cos you play Ra.

ow
Dudis
Mortal
posted 31 July 2009 03:36 AM EDT (US)     12 / 19       
Why the hell does rain help your opponents aswell? Is ES retarded?

"Quotes are nothing but inspiration for the uninspired"
72% of people agree with me when I say 28% of people disagree with me.
"I'll remove the clit at the end" - Rotaretilbo
" I just snapped off my penis thinking it was a nk" - BeezleBub
"Im a transexual STFU" - Briguy
HailToTheViper
Mortal
posted 31 July 2009 06:24 AM EDT (US)     13 / 19       
rain helps all farms, except your farming speed is increased the most according to the infro on this god power. I believe it to be true becuase when you have a Ra ally and they rain for an fh, you never have as much food as when you rain yourself.

As for rain v prosperity. They are completely different gods and these god powers dictate essentially what strats they use. I dont think its that significant. Rain allows you to set up a decent, constant food eco early. That has advanatges. Prosperity allows you to get more gold, so more ppl on food or other res to get to the heroic easily.

isis is definately got an upper hand on ra in terms of fh v fh. Ra doesnt have aggresive god powers when hitting heroic. Swarm is mostly redundant v isis. Sometimes you get to use it. rarely if they know what they are doing.

Isis eco is weaker than a ra eco early in the game play, but the problem is, as i have some experience playing ra, a ra army when doing a stright fh cannot compete with an isis army which has a/e ofc, so you end up putting off your attack and thus letting them boom. If you attack early you risk getting pawned by a/e. If you wait too long you just get rolled becuase thier eco catches up and they have a big army + a.e
I belive you need greater skill as a ra fh to beat an isis fh simply becuase you can get a strong army quickly.

A few times i have played isis and deliberately Fm'ed against ra fh. Meteor + a,e on thier base kills most farms and thier tc. Along with villies. If you can get a good 10min on most maps an ra who adv at 8 mins will have only a small army. Ive done this a couple of times, once v a good ra player, solid 1780 ra fh. Hit him with meteor and a.e and it was gg. Catapults and elephants and chariot. His eco is ruined. He lost resources, and its not a hard start.
So summing up, Ra does have problems to stright FH v isis FH. I think the best solution is a semi fh with preists and a few slingers. Problem is, hunting and farming transition with ra can be difficult, and transitioning between hunt and farms to rain and hit heroic earlyish is a hard thing to get right. Something i have never done well but i just keep getting pawned by isis v ra, maybe i should try it. lol
Dudis
Mortal
posted 31 July 2009 06:28 AM EDT (US)     14 / 19       
Hey Viper youre a member now, did Oboe convince you to join

"Quotes are nothing but inspiration for the uninspired"
72% of people agree with me when I say 28% of people disagree with me.
"I'll remove the clit at the end" - Rotaretilbo
" I just snapped off my penis thinking it was a nk" - BeezleBub
"Im a transexual STFU" - Briguy
VB_WhiplashJC
Mortal
posted 31 July 2009 06:48 AM EDT (US)     15 / 19       
Except that you play nilla, where scarab 'rush' is significantly weaker.

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HailToTheOboe
Bitten by a radioactive ostrich
posted 31 July 2009 08:42 PM EDT (US)     16 / 19       
Dudis
Mortal
posted 31 July 2009 08:44 PM EDT (US)     17 / 19       
:0

Then why else would he be here?

"Quotes are nothing but inspiration for the uninspired"
72% of people agree with me when I say 28% of people disagree with me.
"I'll remove the clit at the end" - Rotaretilbo
" I just snapped off my penis thinking it was a nk" - BeezleBub
"Im a transexual STFU" - Briguy
HailToTheViper
Mortal
posted 31 July 2009 10:46 PM EDT (US)     18 / 19       
BAHAHA! Oboee, maybe reading it twice will maybe make it sink in better :P

Having said this i can give you odin players some advice about ra.
I am usually gearing up to counter cav raids when v thor/odin. BUT the most effecitve way to actually beat ra imo is not do that and mass an army of hers/ta/ulf to lay the smack down on the ra player when he hits heroic. Maybe make 3 cav to fake raids. This guy did this to me right, he must have been 1740 max, but it caught me off gaurd and he nearly gave me serious problems. Any player a little better than him may have beat me :O that hasnt happened for a while. Last time i got beaten by odin on land was a while ago but some crazy mo fo.


Anyway,, how did i find this site? I googled hailtotheviper coz i was epically bored and it came uo with 3 pages, one link was to a quote oboe used from me thus leading me here
Dudis
Mortal
posted 01 August 2009 00:10 AM EDT (US)     19 / 19       
:0

He uses your quotes all the time

"Quotes are nothing but inspiration for the uninspired"
72% of people agree with me when I say 28% of people disagree with me.
"I'll remove the clit at the end" - Rotaretilbo
" I just snapped off my penis thinking it was a nk" - BeezleBub
"Im a transexual STFU" - Briguy
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