mrbond
Mortal
posted 09 February 2003 10:30 PM EDT (US)
I got smacked today as ISIS. The dude was a Loki with Mass JArls and a few FIre giants. I used spearmen and Phoenix, but got smacked!! What's a good counter versus Jarls and Fire Giants!!! Thanks!!
LLBAD
Mortal
posted 09 February 2003 10:46 PM
EDT (US)
2 / 31
hurt him before he gets enough time to mass jarls and make fire giants
mrbond
Mortal
posted 09 February 2003 10:54 PM
EDT (US)
3 / 31
It was a 3 person FFA. I was busy dealing with the Greeks to my North and I got hit by 30+ Jarls to my south! I recovered from the first wave, but then he hit again with 30+ more. I was just curious if there was a pure anti-Jarl unit. Maybe camels?? I'll try that. Any more hints (besides hit him quicker...I was already hitting someone else, so I couldn't). Thanks!
StartTheGame
Mortal
posted 10 February 2003 03:15 AM
EDT (US)
9 / 31
well at least, neither jarls or hersis can touch phonixes, right?
Damn that isis didnt get horus.
PippinTook
Banned
posted 10 February 2003 04:32 AM
EDT (US)
10 / 31
It was rather logical that Isis diddn't get Horus though... her cheap tech bonus + the Horus tech would mean she can acquire one the the scariest infantry (price compare to power wise) in teh game at a much lower cost than others ...
WGF_Flame
Mortal
posted 10 February 2003 04:53 AM
EDT (US)
11 / 31
Isis is a civ that have hard time vs cavs cause they dont get bonus for thier spears, u must imo use camels, and probebly take the god that give them bonus the one with the soO. Elephants can also deal with jarls. and oviously use priests for his mus. If he took bargi ur even in bigger problem and id suggest upgrading ur spears as much as u can and hope for the best cause counting (upgrading) camels or eles will be a mistake.
Bumat
Mortal
posted 10 February 2003 10:06 AM
EDT (US)
14 / 31
Maybe one more thing to consider:
Try fighting him in a narrow place (between two hills/ between water and forest/ between walls and buildings/ any confined place). Have camels and/or elephants (since they have a lot of HP) in the front and have ranged units in the back (preferably SoO, since he can attack 4 at a time and next to him anything that has a ranged attack). In that way his strength is limited, since he can only attack the units in the frontline with his Jarls. Put all your ranged units in 1 or 2 groups and concentrate their attack on one Jarl at a time (in that way you kill them the quickest and most effective).
Try also to have a group coming from another side to fight his Fire Giants.
EliteLongbowman
Mortal
posted 10 February 2003 12:28 PM
EDT (US)
17 / 31
Very simple, build 8 or 10 priests, concentrating them on the Fire Giants, and about 20-30 fully upgraded Spearmen on the Jarls!
mrbond
Mortal
posted 10 February 2003 01:41 PM
EDT (US)
18 / 31
Sounds like Jarls are almost too tough to beat with the Egyptians! I might just have to switch civs. I hate to go Greek as all my firends usually play Greek. But the butt-whooping I took from those Jarls even though I had upgraded spearmen and phoenix was pretty bad. I was hoping camels were the answer, but it sounds like those suck too. IS Poseidon the answer then??
Master_Blaster
Mortal
posted 10 February 2003 06:32 PM
EDT (US)
20 / 31
camels counter loki jarls just fine.
NIB
Mortal
posted 10 February 2003 06:36 PM
EDT (US)
21 / 31
Unupgraded isis/set camels lose to unupgraded loki jarls. I have tested in the editor.
mrbond
Mortal
posted 10 February 2003 10:50 PM
EDT (US)
25 / 31
Now Now...I held my own versus the Greeks - Funky! It was the 320 Jarls that screwed me! Next time Voodoo, you will feel the wrath!