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Topic Subject:Are Atlanteans Overpowered and hated? Lol
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ShadowSeeker_123
Mortal
posted 18 August 2007 08:59 PM EDT (US)         
To kick off this thread, before the flame from the attie lovers begins, ill post my thoughts:

1. They get to use multiple god powers.. It should be balanced considering theres other races that could use multiple godpowers or reduce it to one overall. What about bolt? A one time thing? Compared to a multiple used vortex, or valor and so on? Not to mention their god powers are incredibly powerful.. Implode? That brings your whole army to low health, destroys most buildings, unless you can get your army out of its reach, which is hard.

2. Their economy is a major boom. They dont need a drop off so their economy is naturally better than most civis until you get later game, where the other civs have all of their villies made, but cmon, you wont live that long. And from there reason 2 starts.

3. They have an incredibly strong anti-you unit to whatever you make. If you make horses, they have katapeltes, but youre saying, only idiots only make one unit, but you always have more than one of the other units. You might focus on archers and have horses in the front as meat, or focus on infantry with a few archers in back. Or even make all there, though there will be few. And they can do the very same. Katapeltes, cheiroballistas and contarious.

4. Destroyers are the cheapest thing on earth. Their siege, yet do normal damage making them rather strong against normal units, becoming the equivalent to a normal infantry, like hoplite. The only difference is their armor is significantly stronger. Also they can become heroes (another reason why atlanteans are OP.. anyhting becoming a hero?).

5. Their villagers may be created slower, but they act the equivalent of about 3 normal villagers, yet only cost 2.5x the normal amount, and when they become hero (most of the time from valor) they become incredibly better.

6. Time warp can be abused which is enough said since you can ambush the person with buildings as you attack without hurting your economy by sacrificing a villager at all.

7. They can make a settlement in the first age, seriously, they can make a settlement right infront of you before you can defend (what, with kataskopos or the pharaoh?) And from there you spiral down.

8. Their myth units are incredibly cheap, most civis get 2 water myth units (Greek - Scylla and The Crab thing, Egyptian - Leviathan and War Turtle, Norse - Kraken and the Jormund Elever) and 0 or 1 flying (Greek - Nothing, Egyptian - Pheonix, Norse - Nidhogg) But wait, the Atlanteans get more, Man-o-War and the Nereid, both incredibly strong, man-o-war is almost a massable son of osiris on water, and nereid take apart other costly water myth units and boats, also he gets a healer on water? For Flying they get a lot more flying, stymphalian bird which is more massable than pheonix and caladria, another hard to acess healer. Heka Gigantes? Cmon! THeyre the most over powered thing on earth, they might be targeted and taken down easy, but after taking down how many with its special? 3 maybe 4? The behemoth completely shows the scarab up in siege wise.

I know im going to be hated, and flamed, but I know some people agree with me, and most of you will be saying. Just learn strategies to beat them, out rush them, boom the map or whatever, but sadly, not everyone is as good as you, not everyone will be able to outrush an already easy to use civiliation that only people who cant play use. Now youll say, learn to get better then. How? By playing and getting absolutely destroyed by atlanteans until the point where they decide to become one and become one of the unending army of cheap players? Ive seen many times where very good players fall to people just because they get Helios, time warp fortresses to their base while using three hero villagers and massing mirror towers (which are built very fast with the three). I want you to be open minded, and to all you atlanteans out there. Please, learn to play the game other than "LET'S MASS UNITS AND WITH OUR RESOURCES WE CAN KEEP ON MAKING, THEN MAKE DESTROYERS TAKE OUT TOWN CENTRE AND CALL THEM NOOB". Seriously. Ive dealt with this long enough and want to see if other people out there also have reasons why atlanteans should at least be nerfed (god powers used once, need a drop off point, a different way to get favor? A town centre to get favor? Thats even easier than the egyptians. The game attempted to balance favor to the quality of myth units. Norse get favor a harder way but get amazing myth units, and the egyptians are that great). Leave out your ideas and speak what you want about atlanteans and flame me.

Though i doubt this post will last long considering it will most likely be deleted, removing the freedom of speech that i want to get across my opinion, which brings up another matter of ethics into it. Blocking out my opinion.

By the way, thanks for reading this obscenly long post, if you did. And ill be able to tell if you read the topic and said "Atlanteans own, youre just sad you lost to them" Yes, i am sad and angry i lost to them, its because i lost and i cant beat them because their economy lets them do whatever they want.

[This message has been edited by ShadowSeeker_123 (edited 08-18-2007 @ 09:00 PM).]

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thepinkguy
Mortal
posted 20 August 2007 09:49 PM EDT (US)     31 / 45       
pcgamer u didnt even raze any of their buildings! to beat someone u at least have to raze their TC (for those who dont know what raze means it means to collapse a.k.a. destroy a building like a house barrakcs or town centre)

ONLY REAL MEN CAN WEAR PINK!
I AM CANADIAN!
Shanks13
Rogue Agent
posted 20 August 2007 10:22 PM EDT (US)     32 / 45       
One of the last buildings I raze is the TC.

pcgamer7070
Mortal
posted 20 August 2007 11:02 PM EDT (US)     33 / 45       
pinkguy i won because i destroyed their eco completely and also because they knew they were going to lose. also i killed all of their hunters in the beginning of the game which=gg.

id b happy 2 play you 1 vs 1 so that you can c that i am 1650.
my account is AOTH_pcgamer
WNxWylde1
Mortal
posted 21 August 2007 00:35 AM EDT (US)     34 / 45       
I'll be the judge of that ^.^

Play me :P
Devil_Exile
Mortal
posted 21 August 2007 02:09 AM EDT (US)     35 / 45       
This topic's been done to death. Please search them up before making a thread with the exact same purpose.

http://aom.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/forums/display.cgi?action=ct&f=1,24678,,all
ShadowSeeker_123
Mortal
posted 21 August 2007 05:13 PM EDT (US)     36 / 45       
Sorry i dont scout the past 15 pages of forums [/sarcasm]

[This message has been edited by ShadowSeeker_123 (edited 08-21-2007 @ 05:14 PM).]

BlackSun88
Banned
posted 21 August 2007 09:33 PM EDT (US)     37 / 45       
Well to be honest. Attie are rape in classical and then get worse as the opponents get better units/god powers/techs until they are sorely lacking in mythic
Devil_Exile
Mortal
posted 22 August 2007 07:05 AM EDT (US)     38 / 45       
Quote from ShadowSeeker_123
Sorry i dont scout the past 15 pages of forums
You can just 'search' whatever you want in the 'subject' box...honestly...
Zumox
Mortal
posted 22 August 2007 05:45 PM EDT (US)     39 / 45       
I mean like k'mon, everyone just stop posting those topics about what is OP or UP in AoM. All gods have their strenghts and weaknesses... True, some have an overall stronger gameplay (example Isis>Ra) but maybe these bonuses will fit your play style: Ra scouting>Isis scouting, Ra empower>Isis empower. Never judge a player's skill by the god they play! You say only ppl who don't know how to play use Atty... Just ask XpT_Cyclone about the game and you'll see he knows how to play it...
-It is not the god who makes the player

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Farrel
Banned
posted 22 August 2007 06:32 PM EDT (US)     40 / 45       
Ra scouting>Isis scouting
TYPO????
Ubermode
Banned
posted 22 August 2007 07:01 PM EDT (US)     41 / 45       
LOL RA SCOUTING> ISIS SCOUTING.
Ubermode
Banned
posted 22 August 2007 07:02 PM EDT (US)     42 / 45       
oh and pc gamer, unless either myself or kasper invited you to join AoTH, please get off that nic -.-
BlackSun88
Banned
posted 23 August 2007 03:46 PM EDT (US)     43 / 45       
Last time I checked Ubermode, Nicehorus restarted it and there are 25+ members we recruited that are easily the most active of any AoTH. AoTH, stands for Age of Titans Heaven, which most of your "Clan leaders" are banned from. Don't tell pc to get off that nick when you and your friends can't legitimately run the clan. It makes no sense to be honest. If people from AoTH can't be in it.

[This message has been edited by Colossus88 (edited 08-23-2007 @ 03:47 PM).]

Ubermode
Banned
posted 23 August 2007 04:02 PM EDT (US)     44 / 45       
Last time you checked, i r n00b said nicehorus could be a member, and nicehorus with his HUGE ego and HUGE lack of ability to understand simple english took it upon himself to recruit his friends into the clan.

Like I said loads of times already, I have no problem with you guys having your own little clan with all your little friends in it, but while you are on AoTH nic, you are setting a seriously bad example to all the other guys that still play the game. If someone joins a game with 3 people on AoTH_xxxx name, and all 2/3/4 rates are 1650 (and every single one of YOUR members IS under 1650), they automatically assume (correctly) that the clan is for noobs. Which it isn't this time last year almost all AoTH members had a rate of 1750+. we had i think 4 guys that had 18+ this time last year.

I know i shouldn't get so frustrated about this, but to me it's almost insulting. Why do you guys have to be so fvcking stubborn about this? Why can't you choose another simple selection of letters?
pcgamer7070
Mortal
posted 23 August 2007 05:55 PM EDT (US)     45 / 45       
1. most of us are actually 1650+
2. the only aoth people i ever see on are me and my 1650 friends so if you even are active on and aoth nick could you tell so perhaps you could enlighten me on how to not be a noob.

[btw i r noob trained me already so i am better that you think]
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