YunSun
Mortal
posted 13 October 2008 11:46 PM
EDT (US)
91 / 122
I watched some recs of Zesu and Aol_Magyar(IMO best Zeus player ever) and they dont get those upgrades and they seem to battle just fine
I get it thought as soon as i Hit mythic age, but i stop my flow of villagers for a bit and if they did get those upgrades it would slow ur advance time down IMOH
YunSun
Mortal
posted 14 October 2008 02:30 AM
EDT (US)
93 / 122
ok, I still dont get how his axemen will rape Zeus' heroes they only have 4 Hack attack and ur heroes arent attacking alone ur going with your force of myrmidons and collosi when attacking him. FM requires alot of micro.
As for myth units destroying ur myrmidons the only MU that he will probably get are the ones that are given to him for free.
Since bellerphon has such a high hack attack, fast speed and the fact that his special rocks he can easily make quick work of any Eggy MU.
As for the advancing time it should be easier for Zeus to hit heroic faster the fact of early economic advantage. Isis can gather gold extremely quickly due to prosperity but will be slower in food. Ra can get food quickly and because his farms cost a good amount of gold he will be lacking it in order to advance very quickly. And as for Set he has no economic GPs to help him advance faster and since Eggy villies are weaker at gathering on u should be able to advance faster than him.
And as for Ceasefire most Egyptians won't be attacking you until 10-11 min. into the game since most of them will be FH boomers. By the time he attacks you should be close to mythic age or in Mythic age already and Ceasefire can be used then. First hero to train would be Bellerphon and him given with ur Free MU should be enough to defend while u train ur quick army to battle him. And u also have the bolt GP to make an instant death to any MU giving u a threat.
YunSun
Mortal
posted 14 October 2008 02:20 PM
EDT (US)
100 / 122
Yes I agree with most of the threads above to counter Zeus' FM but that tactic is used very often against other Eggy Boomers and quite frankly it works very well.
Arus_II
Mortal
posted 15 October 2008 01:03 AM
EDT (US)
104 / 122
I am not saying that catapults arent good, but they just suck vs human units. Btw, the enemy can avoid those rocks, they move very slow. And you say that 50 crush and 10 pierce are alot of damage, thats not true: 50x0.01(99 crush armour)=0.5, but the minimal damage is always 1. 10 Pierce damage 10x0.45 (FU)= 4.5 So you say that catapults are good vs them? I think the gastras kill you fist: 8 pierce x0.1= 0.8 (minimal damage 1) or crush 6x0.20= 1.2 damage. Well ok, there attack sucks vs catapults, but thats not where they intended to be good at.
But anyway, do you really think that you kill gastras in 3 shots with 4.5 damage? I dont. Thats 3x4.5= 13.5 HP while they have 60 HP. So, your theory is very, very wrong.
outsky2008
Mortal
posted 15 October 2008 01:06 AM
EDT (US)
105 / 122
It is not my theory, I did a test.
Arus_II
Mortal
posted 15 October 2008 01:09 AM
EDT (US)
106 / 122
But how do you explain my maths?
outsky2008
Mortal
posted 15 October 2008 01:53 AM
EDT (US)
108 / 122
In my last test, catapult kills most unupgraded human archer in 2 shots if hit. I said 3 because I thought upgrade may make a difference. I will redo the test tomorrow to check if there is anything wrong. I didn't not consider damage/second before. This seems to be a reasonable explanation.
Nirwanda
Mortal
posted 17 October 2008 08:21 AM
EDT (US)
116 / 122
Aye.
That, and the fact that Eggy has no working counters at all against Cherios in classical age.
Yup.
BlackSun88
Banned
posted 17 October 2008 09:31 AM
EDT (US)
117 / 122
ein littol spear & MU vs chiero...
there's always vills too xD
Major_Rackham
Banned
posted 17 October 2008 11:06 PM
EDT (US)
120 / 122
Chieros as in chieros.
Chieroballistas, (sp?)
Arus_II
Mortal
posted 19 October 2008 07:16 AM
EDT (US)
122 / 122
I thought you had ubisoft gold edition?