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Arus_II
Mortal
posted 05 October 2008 05:03 AM EDT (US)         
Most zeus players tend to replace their hops to myrms in mythic, but why? Do myrms have a multiplier vs cavalry?
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Mythic_Freak
Mortal
posted 05 October 2008 05:32 AM EDT (US)     1 / 45       
They have good base stats, and have a multiplier(1.5x) vs every non-greek unit (except axemen and throwing axemen).

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Akimos_2
Mortal
posted 05 October 2008 06:38 AM EDT (US)     2 / 45       
Myms get a bonus against non-greek Cav through the 1.5X civ bonus. If you're playing Vs greek, I'd reccomend you keep making Hops, unless you fear MU's. In that case i'd get Beast Slayer and make a few to help out Bella.
IAmJudge
Mortal
posted 05 October 2008 09:30 AM EDT (US)     3 / 45       
Myrmidons in groups also deal decent damage to archers (except maybe tox), which is another reason why they are hard to counter. They also deal more damage to buildings per second than any Greek siege.

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Arus_II
Mortal
posted 06 October 2008 00:48 AM EDT (US)     4 / 45       
ah.. ok, I always thought they have a multiplier vs non-greek infantery..
DeathAndPain
Mortal
posted 06 October 2008 04:06 AM EDT (US)     5 / 45       
You could spare yourself unclearnesses like this one and generally greatly improve your game knowledge if you simply read the unit tables, Arus. Recommendable are both Xentelian's Excel sheets and the tables on the AoMH home page, although on the latter you should make sure to read the TT expansion version of the tables.

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Arus_II
Mortal
posted 06 October 2008 01:06 PM EDT (US)     6 / 45       
yeah, thats true, but I didnt have much time back then to search for it..
Major_Rackham
Banned
posted 06 October 2008 06:33 PM EDT (US)     7 / 45       
When is "back then"?
Arus_II
Mortal
posted 07 October 2008 01:10 AM EDT (US)     8 / 45       
when I posted it
DeathAndPain
Mortal
posted 07 October 2008 03:24 AM EDT (US)     9 / 45       
Looking it up in the AoMH table is definitely done faster than writing a forum thread. And it does not waste our time. I mean, strategical questions are always welcome, but asking for table data when the table is on the AoMH site is silly.

Darkness is a state of mind
Valor is the contempt of Death and Pain. (Tacitus)
Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. (Piet Hein)
muforseti
Mortal
posted 07 October 2008 08:32 AM EDT (US)     10 / 45       
i wouldnt rely on anythin made by aomh
Arus_II
Mortal
posted 07 October 2008 11:09 AM EDT (US)     11 / 45       
but asking for table data when the table is on the AoMH site is silly.
I wasnt really asking for table data, I only wanted to know why zeus players replace their hops by myrms.

And I didnt know that myrms have a multiplier vs every unit of an other civ.
muforseti
Mortal
posted 07 October 2008 01:48 PM EDT (US)     12 / 45       
stop to qualify your question do you reallycare what deathandpain thinks of you?
Ironclaw77
Mortal
posted 07 October 2008 03:14 PM EDT (US)     13 / 45       
muforseti
muforseti...
mu forseti...
MU Forsetti...
Myth Unit of Forsetti...

Troll.



Clever.

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Arus_II
Mortal
posted 07 October 2008 03:18 PM EDT (US)     14 / 45       
0_0, indeed clever..
Shanks13
Rogue Agent
posted 07 October 2008 05:02 PM EDT (US)     15 / 45       
Troll.
Indeed. I suggest that the user who is less than a week registered behave himself.

jer292
Mortal
posted 07 October 2008 06:51 PM EDT (US)     16 / 45       
myrmidons look cool they are also equiped wit swords better damage against cavalry and heroes that what i thinks anyway
Ironclaw77
Mortal
posted 07 October 2008 09:33 PM EDT (US)     17 / 45       
It is obvious smurf.

I have my ideas...

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Arus_II
Mortal
posted 08 October 2008 00:59 AM EDT (US)     18 / 45       
What exactly is trolling?
muforseti
Mortal
posted 08 October 2008 03:37 AM EDT (US)     19 / 45       
Indeed. I suggest that the user who is less than a week registered behave himself.
What in case you ban me? I have been banned from this site countless times but I still have my real account unbanned.
DeathAndPain
Mortal
posted 08 October 2008 04:01 AM EDT (US)     20 / 45       
I suggest that the user who is less than a week registered behave himself.
Useless suggestion, as the parallel that ironclaw explained was certainly intended. He came here to troll, so that is what he will do.
I have been banned from this site countless times but I still have my real account unbanned.
My guess is i r n00b. He is smart enough to properly disguise his IP so that the smurfs cannot be tracked back easily, invent this user name, and avoid his own writing style well enough not to be identified by the way he writes.

No other troll like that would have my name deathandpain spelled out. Him doing so was an attempt not to spell it DaP, which would be obvious i r n00b style.

Darkness is a state of mind
Valor is the contempt of Death and Pain. (Tacitus)
Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. (Piet Hein)
muforseti
Mortal
posted 08 October 2008 07:18 AM EDT (US)     21 / 45       
come on, think outside the box a little.
i r n00b
Banned
posted 08 October 2008 07:34 AM EDT (US)     22 / 45       
My guess is i r n00b.
If it rlyl was me you would not even guess 11

Obviouslyl making things too intricate would have the evidence pointed towards me as onyl I have mass brainpower here.

On ein sidenote, if it rlyl was me (it isn't btw11) you are just playing mein game.

What I wonder, however, is how you reached those somewhat vivid conclusions, DaP?
No other troll like that would have my name deathandpain spelled out. Him doing so was an attempt not to spell it DaP, which would be obvious i r n00b style.
Perhaps it is you that is trolling for ein change, which would explain your explanation of 'deathandpain' spelled out. Surelyl you would not be able to reach such ein conclusion without inventing it yourself?
Dudis
Mortal
posted 08 October 2008 07:50 AM EDT (US)     23 / 45       
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Nirwanda
Mortal
posted 08 October 2008 08:07 AM EDT (US)     24 / 45       
It doesn't take a masters degree in rocket surgery to figure out what's going on around here!!
Dudis
Mortal
posted 08 October 2008 08:14 AM EDT (US)     25 / 45       
Wait I know who muforsetti is! It is none other than................



DeathAndPain! He even went to the trouble of quoting himself and accusing I_r_noob to throw us of track!

I has solved mystery!

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72% of people agree with me when I say 28% of people disagree with me.
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[This message has been edited by Dudis (edited 10-08-2008 @ 08:17 AM).]

DeathAndPain
Mortal
posted 08 October 2008 10:28 AM EDT (US)     26 / 45       
Yeah right! That will be it.

Darkness is a state of mind
Valor is the contempt of Death and Pain. (Tacitus)
Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. (Piet Hein)
Arus_II
Mortal
posted 08 October 2008 11:46 AM EDT (US)     27 / 45       
Lets bann him!!!!
YunSun
Mortal
posted 08 October 2008 02:14 PM EDT (US)     28 / 45       
most Zeus players replace their hoplites the fact they are alot more flexible units than hoplites and get bonus dmg vs any non greek unit
in greek wars hoplites are better in most cases but packing myrmidons is always good the fact that they have high armor and are great building killers and can combat close ranged MU well with beast slayer
against norse they especially replace them because they can be spammed and most norse players will have a hard time countering them, they even beat throwing axemen which is a heavy infantry counter, and Jarls too
Vs Atty they do very well also and they even take down Arcus easily, only units that should counter the Myrmidon as Atty are the Fanatic and Cheiroballista and they barely win
Vs Eggy they are superior to most of their military units besides axemen and CA, vs CA they do decently well but they will still lose, vs Axemen they do get a small bonus dmg vs them but the fact that the axemen's bonus is so much larger vs infantry they will win
muforseti
Mortal
posted 08 October 2008 04:43 PM EDT (US)     29 / 45       
Excuse me YunSun, but we're talking about me here!!
LS_tmac911
Banned
posted 08 October 2008 05:34 PM EDT (US)     30 / 45       
guys calm down, it was tyler durden's 3rd personality, THE AOM ADDICT!
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