buppy
Mortal
(id: pubby8)
posted 21 June 2009 01:57 PM EDT (US)
Most norse games go like this:
I'm Ra. I advance around 6:00. In the beginning of classical, I get raided from RC and hesirs, which take out my towers and keep my villagers off of resources. Of course I have trained a handful of priests and usualy some spearmen, but I never can hold him off.
What should I do? Every now and then I'll see his temple going up, and I'll send around 5 villies to go kill it, but the ulfsark usually gets away rebuilds it on the other side. Walling never works cause I need the gold for a decent heroic time, and sending 20 villies to build barracks won't work either.
I'm not exactly a good player (1550-1650 is what I've been), but I feel that I could be better if I could get past age 2 on rushers.
iamdork
Mortal
posted 21 June 2009 03:10 PM
EDT (US)
3 / 29
Houses and small wall links as needed around towers plus crenalations (critical) will keep RC at bay. A few axemen for hersirs (can be used againts RC if within tower or tc range) and couple priests for myth if they are rushing. With that you should be able to get to Heroic and get started on mig. The longer you stay in classical the better for them.
buppy
Mortal
(id: pubby8)
posted 21 June 2009 04:43 PM
EDT (US)
5 / 29
Thanks for the tips. I'll certainly try some of them out.
At the first sign he's spamming cavalry, I usually get crenelations and build a short (1-2 segments) wall around wood+gold causing him to go around. I also build houses around towers, but their army usually takes them out no problem, leaving me with little pop and no towers.
Question:
Axemen or spearmen against TA? I usually don't get a great deal of slingers (around 5 an army), and I'm wondering which is better.
Eddy_Current
Mortal
posted 21 June 2009 05:00 PM
EDT (US)
6 / 29
Ah beating Norse with Ra is easy (on land maps)
High Hunt: 7 food (with hunting dogs) 4 gold, rest to food again. pharaoh empowers gold after scouting and gold vils + phar build temple
=> 4 min classic, during adv (through Ptah) you brought up your pharaoh and priest, shift them together with some vils, ox cart if you're lucky some hersir/ulf too back to your base. In the mean time prepare for rain (husbandry, shaduf, plow, farms) and make a few rax units. 9.30 heroic with Hathor, mig in base (unless he's rly passive), aq camels and add some ca. Locust, raid, gg at 15 min usually (works great up till ~1850)
Low hunt: strat is the same, you will be a little slower but the lack of food should hurt the norse guy more then you
different bo: 1st monu asap, 7 to food, 3 to gold (husbandry) classic around 4.40.
Make sure your towers are safe and your wadjet stays alive, that and ~5 rax units should hold him off easy till you're Heroic (his attack will be slow because of your priest rush)
vs ta: try to use wadjets (keep them alive, easy vs non-forseti)
buppy
Mortal
(id: pubby8)
posted 21 June 2009 05:31 PM
EDT (US)
8 / 29
Anouther question: When should I build monuments?
iamdork
Mortal
posted 21 June 2009 06:59 PM
EDT (US)
15 / 29
OPswim,
I am sorry, if being heavy raided/rushed by RC crenalated towers make since for only 150f/w, at the very least it keeps him from constantly running through your base, him having good scouting and keeping you on constant alert. If you do FH and are skipping classical fighting I could see waiting to get it due to cost, but that is not the case here. I have never been rushed as eggy with TA, so slings are pointless (at least in the very beginning unless they are the only thing you can afford and are desperate).
iamdork
Mortal
posted 22 June 2009 06:26 AM
EDT (US)
18 / 29
OPswim,
Did you read what I wrote? I said that if you are doing FH then you would wait to get it. The questions posted here is if a norse rush is keeping you from FH. Which happens once in a while as RA since you don't have a/e.
iamdork
Mortal
posted 22 June 2009 09:44 AM
EDT (US)
20 / 29
OPswim,
1. How did I contradict myself?
2. Although I agree with the priest harrasment strategy, it takes good micro skills which not everyone has. Which is why we are discussing minimal classical fighting to get to Heroic and still be able to build Mig.
iamdork
Mortal
posted 22 June 2009 10:21 AM
EDT (US)
22 / 29
That is not a contradiction. Maybe the languages of Scotland and America are not the same.
Hitting the advance button with RA is easier yes, but you dont get the auto army... which is why I mentioned getting to Heroic with the ability to get a Mig up.
I guess my point is in the situation initially submitted my preferences would be:
1. FH with only free units houses around towers
2. Crenallations if it is heavy RC
3. RAX only if necessary, and normally axemen as they are the best general rax unit against norse. But as few as possible to defend while getting to Heroic.
The reasons I would get crenallations first is that:
1. Againts thor generally RC are your biggest threat
2. Food is generally easier to come by than gold (crenallations is f/w -vs- to build rax is gold, then units are f/g)
iamdork
Mortal
posted 22 June 2009 11:34 AM
EDT (US)
24 / 29
No offense was intended.
I don't think we are differing on the answer, only on what the question is. But have fun in PA.