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CC_Straight_Og
Mortal
posted 21 May 2002 00:02 AM EDT (US)         
I thought we needed a thread to talk about flying units, so here it is...

We know of or have assumed the existence several flying units in AoM. They are; Pegasus, Phoenix, Raven, Nidhogg, Bellerophon, Griffin and Roc. There may be others as well.

I'll divide them into three speculative categories; scouts, transports and attackers.

Scouts - Pegasus, Phoenix and Raven. They are speculated to have no value as attackers and are only scout units.
Transports- Griffin and Roc. Have been rumoured as having the ability to carry units over walls and across the map. Seems like they'll have little value as attackers themselves. Kinda like transport ships in the air.
Attackers - Nidhogg and Bellerophon. Nidhogg breathes fire and Bellerophon is pictured with a sword or a spear. This leads me to conclude that the Nidhogg is a ranged attacker and Bellerophon is a meele attacker.

Keep in mind that the Nidhogg is summoned by a god power. Certainly, the Nidhogg is powerful, but since its summoned by a GP it's definately limited.

This leads me to the conclusion that there will be no trainable units that are flying and ranged. Do you agree with this assumption? I'm happy about this (if it's true) because flying ranged units are like cav archers that you can never catch. This theory fits in with comments by ES that flying units are not a major part of game balance.

Another thing about flying units I don't understand is the griffin and the roc. Are they second MU's granted by minor gods like Scylla is? I don't believe that they (or any MU) would be relic only as some have suggested. So where does the griffin fit into the Greek tech tree?

Also, if I forgot any flying units feel free to bring them up. I'll put them in a category.

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TheShadowDawn
Mortal
posted 23 May 2002 00:36 AM EDT (US)     31 / 39       

Quote:

In the first screeny where we saw the war elephants Pheonix's fly into battle with the eggy army
I think they can attack

Of course...Pegasus has appeared in every second Greek screenshot, and it can't attack...


TheShdwDwn
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wrotong
Mortal
posted 23 May 2002 06:17 AM EDT (US)     32 / 39       
"In the first screeny where we saw the war elephants Pheonix's fly into battle with the eggy army
I think they can attack"

i think what he means is if they're just scout units wy send them in with your army, i'm most likely wrong and OMG i just questioned the authority of a moderator, goddam i'm dumb


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Dagobert
Mortal
posted 23 May 2002 12:23 PM EDT (US)     33 / 39       
To send a scout with your army is not a bad idea if it's line of sight is greater than the other units los.

A light cav in a small pack of paladins is somewhat OK, but you need some microing in order to keep it alive. With a flying scout, less microing is necessary, specially if it doesn't fight like the Pegasus.


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Real
Mortal
posted 23 May 2002 12:31 PM EDT (US)     34 / 39       
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TheShadowDawn
Mortal
posted 23 May 2002 01:08 PM EDT (US)     35 / 39       
Real: Where exactly was this official confirmation?

Quote:

"In the first screeny where we saw the war elephants Pheonix's fly into battle with the eggy army
I think they can attack"
i think what he means is if they're just scout units wy send them in with your army, i'm most likely wrong and OMG i just questioned the authority of a moderator, goddam i'm dumb

What I meant was that the Pegasus has appeared in almost every Greek battle shot with a greek army, but we know that it can't attack...so simply because the Phoenix appears with an Egyptian army isn't much of a reason to assume it can attack...

(Authority. That simply means people make more an issue when you turn out to be wrong...bleh...you know who you are...)


TheShdwDwn
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petard_rusher
Mortal
posted 23 May 2002 03:37 PM EDT (US)     36 / 39       
"OMG i just questioned the authority of a moderator, goddam i'm dumb"
Lol, if we took everything the mods say to be true then we wouldn't get to argue with them and prove them wrong eh ?
CC_Straight_Og
Mortal
posted 23 May 2002 03:56 PM EDT (US)     37 / 39       
If the Phoenix is a suicide unit then its value as a scout is drastically reduced...

How could you scout an enemy town without blowing up your scout?

*you move your phoenix to a greek town to look around*
BANG!!!
*you realize you sent the phoenix to enemy lumber camp and it exploded*
*you realize that at least you killed a lot of helpless lumberjacks*

I love the idea of a flying petard, but in some situations (early game), a flying scout would be more useful than a flying petard. Of course, the Egyptians might have other flying units that can be more practically used as scouts...

Real, where has this been confirmed? Magazine preview?

vladimir87
Mortal
posted 23 May 2002 04:54 PM EDT (US)     38 / 39       
I thought it was that magazine preview where we found out there were four ages...

Yea, I think that was it...

It HAS been confirmed though. Now I feel confident...

-Vladimir87

Real
Mortal
posted 24 May 2002 05:54 AM EDT (US)     39 / 39       
No, not in a magazine but in the internet, a german preview, the page was postet in the news, unfortunately I dunno the url.

Where's paradise?...............AoM is....In war there're only loosers!
Paradise is in your heart - ..gonna come! Love is the soul's blood!
open your heart and you'll be in paradise!..There's no uncertainty, there's only hope!
What's the difference between a raven?...What's yellow and hangs in a tree?
Nothing...its legs are both equal, all about the right one!...=> A blue couch!
Real may say he leaves...but be sure, he'll come back!
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