but the jarl can only be created in the heroic age and, at the hill fort, the greek hero can also pick up relics, your trying to compare a classical age unit to a heroic age unit well ofcourse the heroic age unit is stronger!
dont give me villager second crap, we know that laborours have slower gathering rates, but with the resource upgrades they get a good boost, there are disadvantages to the jarls ofcourse, like there is to anything, the most obvious one is that they have counters, massed spearmen, prodromos, and camles, ok they may not beat them 1on1, but thats not the case in a real battle, i vs eggy with odin all the time, i should know, i never have the same amount of jarls as camels and certainly never the same amount as spearmen, youve got to consider resources as well, not just population, PLUS camels are good against archers as well, that includes throwing axemen! jarls are only good against slingers because the slingers cant scratch them, but the jarls only has an attack bonus against MU, theres a disadvantage
you people should stop whinging, ESO has done there part in nerfing the jarl, now its up to you eggy and greek players to adapt to counter them with good combos, chariot archers with camles would do excellent against jarls, two things hitting them at once. like i said, the jarl is the norses' most ELITE UNIT, the camel is certainly not eggys most elite unit, i dont even think eggy has a most elite unit, cos eggy suck, but the camel is definately not the most elite unit....if there is one.
I think all you people who are crying because you get beaten by a few expensive cavalry should reconsider your actions before you start blaming the people who made the game, ah theres another disadvantage JARLS ARE SLOW AND EXPENSIVE! the nerfing has been done and that is that. you cant make spearmen stronger, they already made the hoplite cheaper which has increased greeks chance against the jarl, the spearmen takes 9 seconds and is almost the cheapest unit in the game! if they made it stronger the poor rcs would become even more disadvantaged than they already are against eggy. you probably lose all those battles because the odin player has a good combo with other units and is microing well, but you blame the jarl is overpowered because it appears to be the strongest unit in that combo, i think the strongest heroic age combo for odin is huskarls and ulfsarks backed up by jarls and some throwing axemen, so theoretically, they should be able to take on anything, what about camel chariot combo? that counters everying! so what are you complaining about? you people need to consider what YOUR army combo is when facing jarls, AND your micro management, dont start complaining just because jarls beats a camel 1 on 1. star playing REAL games against odin players and see how you go, you think he has the upper hand with his hill fort units, but believe me, hes just as worried as you are of being cut up by those cheap little spearmen, i should know i play odin.
[This message has been edited by Thors_hammer_256 (edited 06-03-2003 @ 06:09 PM).]