whinging about the jarls being overpowered is not going to solve your problem, so if they have more pierce armour and can hammer slingers, SIMPLE DONT USE SLINGERS. pop effective? 300g 300f expensive? thats no worse than norse heavy cavalry which is 400f 200g.
you cant tell me that spearmen and camel combo will have no chance, they are both counters, and the jarl hasnt as much pierce armour. your tests are only proving that the jarl is stronger than the spearmen or camel, well ofcourse tell us something we dont know, to prove they are overpowered, you need to consider all the measures of cost in the game.
- resources
- pop
- time
plus you need to consider the battle ground, the level of micromanagent and the unit combos on both sides.
if the armies are fair and both players have used a similar amount of these 3 measures, and the jarls still win by far, then maybe it is overpowered, but the jarl will not win by far, there will be many casualties on both sides if the players have used similar resources, ok so thats a bit general, but i play against eggy al the time with odin, their units most certainly do threaten my jarls, if anything its my huskarls that deal out the real damage.
the jarl is certainly not the most pop efficient unit in the game, it is an elite expensive, slow cavalry than costs an appropriate amount of population. lets look at population, there could be 10 jarls for 30 population and 500f 800g. how many spearmen could you make with that? 15 with more upgrades because of the reduced cost, i think that would be a close battle.
im not trying to display misleading information, im trying to tell you that the jarls has had its deal with the patches and now is a fair elite unit. obiously im wasting my time, you can whinge all you want, i probably wont convince you, but you can think all you want.
and btw my age is irrelavent, even if i am 15, thats close to the average age for aom players, ever pay attention to the AOMH polls?
[This message has been edited by Thors_hammer_256 (edited 06-11-2003 @ 01:16 AM).]