lessthanjakeman9
Mortal
posted 08 May 2004 08:06 PM EDT (US)
Ok i remember a rec game from ages ago where an isis player got to heroic at 5:29. Wouldnt it be awesome to do that then cast ancestors/eclipse on the enemy. At that point in the game theres NOTHING that could stop it. You cant use ceasefire. You dont have enough heroes if you have any at all to kill the ancestors. You wont have an army at all. Basically i think that ancestors/eclipse that early would kill ANYONE especially norse. Of course isis lost her ability to spend less on age advancement to you could probably only pull off a 5:45-5-50 heroic now.
metroid888
Mortal
posted 08 May 2004 09:00 PM
EDT (US)
1 / 26
Holy **** thats one Fast heroic! Thats about when I get to classical! Do you still have that recorded game?
lessthanjakeman9
Mortal
posted 08 May 2004 10:42 PM
EDT (US)
3 / 26
I think that ancestors/eclipse can pretty efficiently kill your entire base if its done before 6 minutes. I mean at 6 minutes i will have maybe a tc, a temple, some houses (amount depends on civ), gathering sites and maybe 3 barracks (not even that if im eggy). In one minute anc/ecl will either take out all the vills and most of the buildings but not the tc or it will take down the tc and take down a lot of the buildings. I'd usually aim to use it to kill every villager in the base then go to kill the outer buildings. I dont care if i only have 15 vills ive already won.
Mowie666
Mortal
posted 08 May 2004 11:07 PM
EDT (US)
4 / 26
I just did 6:30 with 16 vills.. 11 -5.. but I guess 10-5 is all thats needed, as i had way too much gold..
lessthanjakeman9
Mortal
posted 08 May 2004 11:38 PM
EDT (US)
5 / 26
The odin FH was along the same lines. Get to heroic at about 6:30 (pretty easy with a lot of hunting i did it first time i tried) and cast walking woods. At that point in the game it will really hurt them. But this is far superior.
Mowie666
Mortal
posted 08 May 2004 11:53 PM
EDT (US)
6 / 26
question is do you go for TC or just slaughter vills.. cause good player will garrison
Mowie666
Mortal
posted 09 May 2004 01:34 AM
EDT (US)
8 / 26
cool how many vills? Cause theoretically, they are better off unless you leave them with less than 15 vills since they'd still have 2 god powers more then u afterwards..
lessthanjakeman9
Mortal
posted 09 May 2004 11:07 AM
EDT (US)
11 / 26
The thing is that if you cast ancestors on the tc then the tc will only go down and you wont kill anything else. Now at this point all they have to do is rebuild it and your eco already sucks so they will win. On the other hand if you take out their villagers and buildings they are screwed.
Sephlock
Mortal
posted 10 May 2004 09:24 AM
EDT (US)
14 / 26
How in the name of sweet smelly underpants is that possible? I can START going heroic at that time, but REACHING heroic? Where is this recording? On what page of the list of recs?
Sephlock
Mortal
posted 10 May 2004 02:49 PM
EDT (US)
16 / 26
I'm playing vanilla, and I can't get near that time... argh
lessthanjakeman9
Mortal
posted 11 May 2004 03:38 PM
EDT (US)
23 / 26
you can take down his tc then as hes trying to build up again run in with your newly made spearmen and kill gathering buildings.