It's interesting to note that ulfsarks can do better against infantry than TA, in many, many situations.
In fact, I wish people wouldn't say Odin loses to loki, because a 10% food bonus gets you to classical faster and better suited for return rushing with ulfs. I would say Thor can't do that though, but I don't like playing thor so I don't know.
Quoted from Ekanta:
yea, now we are back to minor god boosts again. Let me enlighten you that thor doesnt have heimdall.
So far it has been: Go forseti if you want a ranged myth killer (troll). heim if you want to beat infantry with better towers.
go skadi if you want decent ta. go bragi if you want to be able to beat eles. Baldr if you want a titan. Minor gods should give a nice boost, not be the deciding factor if you can handle a normal situation or not.
Oh, wow, I think your right. I never thought about if it was any different than other civs when I choose the wrong heroic god. I guess I realized this when people said Odin sux because he has no trolls to counter infantry, and no Bragi to counter elephants.
I think I disagree with Norse not being able to deal with cavalry(excluding WE). I have only been in 1 game that I couldn't beat cavalry. But in that game, I was outplayed. I still have an old rec of heimdall towers with crennelations owning hippikons, and ulfsarks do a decent job in the whole picture, with RC being a great help against Cavalry.
I think there is another large problem with norse. They absolutly suck at low hunt maps. They start off with a moving, pre-built drop site and 2 gatherers, an ulfsark that sorta acts like a 3rd villie because he builds stuff instead of wasting vil time, and they also have the economic advantage of dwarves.
This early start bonus is hugely lessened on low hunt maps, as the starting economic bonus is being applied less in comparison to the handicap the opponet is getting for a lower hunt map.
This is a worse problem now than before because before, people used RC with TA to conserve food. Now that the TA has been nerfed, and the RC has such a crappy train time, you end up being in a really bad disadvantage.
IMO, TA's bonus mult. versus inf need to be raised much higher, while taking away or reducing the effectivness of other anti-infantry against TA. (except maybe the Hypapists)
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