TOAO_Power
Mortal
posted 18 April 2005 04:28 PM
EDT (US)
1 / 65
If he is going all out water, you want to go all out siege. Don't bother with the migdol, a 2nd TC would be even more important. Throw down 2 barracks if you feel he might have a small land army. If he is thor, or odin, make 4-5 spears. Once you get water, throw down a migdol on the side, cutting off gold. Make alot of CA.
Pug
Mortal
posted 18 April 2005 06:04 PM
EDT (US)
2 / 65
I usually put my starting vills on wood, next few on food till i can have constant vill production, then lots on wood but start slipping a few to gold once you have 6 or so on wood, get that second dock up asap. Forget hd or husb on water maps. get the other dock up and fish boat spam. Youll see the game clock hit 3 min and think your screwed,but all of a sudden it comes in like mad. Of course dont get housed, that sucks bad
Aikidoka_Molinjir
Mortal
(id: Nike_Molinjir)
posted 24 April 2005 10:58 AM
EDT (US)
3 / 65
I know people who use a mix of fishing ships and food vils, but I, for Thor FH, only use fishing ships. Admittedly, thor can keep spamming dwarves, and I don't know too much about egyptians on water, but I would assume you would want a land-food-gathering core of about 5-6, just enough to keep food for steady vil production until you have enough fishing ships.
TOAO_Power
Mortal
posted 24 April 2005 11:02 AM
EDT (US)
4 / 65
Why would you FH with thor? Only time I would do that is for the 7 minute FH ulf rush with FW. And then you would be switching your wood gatherers to food and back :S.
Aikidoka_Molinjir
Mortal
(id: Nike_Molinjir)
posted 24 April 2005 11:40 AM
EDT (US)
5 / 65
I thor FH because it is fast. I go heroic by 7:30, max, build 3-4 rams, 10 ulfs, run into his base around 8:30, frost his army, knock TC and military buildings down, gg in 10 min.
X2C_41nT2L82Qu1T
Banned
posted 24 April 2005 12:21 PM
EDT (US)
6 / 65
Try a 4mins advance with ra with no fishing tell you win water. Its realy unexpected and wins most of the time.
TOAO_Power
Mortal
posted 24 April 2005 03:58 PM
EDT (US)
7 / 65
If your attacking at 7:30, you should hae like 30-40 ulfs, go with Flaming weapons, and take him out.
X2C_41nT2L82Qu1T
Banned
posted 24 April 2005 07:02 PM
EDT (US)
9 / 65
Wow a 7 30 heroic + 40 ulfs kind of hard to beleive...
X2C_41nT2L82Qu1T
Banned
posted 24 April 2005 09:02 PM
EDT (US)
11 / 65
Oh on water nvm forgot the title lol cause I cant imagine this on a land map except maybe a realy high hunting one.
Aikidoka_Molinjir
Mortal
(id: Nike_Molinjir)
posted 28 April 2005 09:53 PM
EDT (US)
12 / 65
I like the FH instead, because, I frost the larger army that has flaming weapons going, knock down his TC and military buildings, and build counters. Thirty-five ulfs won't help if I have reinforcements coming in and they don't.
TOAO_Power
Mortal
posted 28 April 2005 11:02 PM
EDT (US)
13 / 65
Who said I don't have reinforcements???
Reckless_Boomer
Mortal
posted 29 April 2005 06:55 AM
EDT (US)
15 / 65
still, having 40 ulfs by heroic(at 7:30) would require a great economy. you would have to at least secure a solid income of gold, and food. and you still have to build all your regular stuff, in case something goes wrong. it just depends on the enemy i guess. if they're playing zeus or hades, and make tox and hoplites, then it would be much more difficult to defeat them, especially if they already had some towers.
TOAO_Power
Mortal
posted 29 April 2005 08:16 AM
EDT (US)
17 / 65
Its requiers alot of econ micro, you need to switch your 12~ woodies to food, back again, back to food. Once you get 115 pop space, 3 longhouses, you switch them all to food. This doesn't work as well, no shoooting docks
X2C_41nT2L82Qu1T
Banned
posted 29 April 2005 01:37 PM
EDT (US)
18 / 65
Well thats if the opponent sux and your fishing stays intact till heroic age... Btw deathandpain wtf are you talking about?? His eco is more messed up than yours because he loses all his fishing before advancing. Poseidon and thor are both useless vs ra on mediteranean. The thor wont be able to advance very fast without his gold mine and the poseidon wont be able to cast lure or pestillence.
X2C_41nT2L82Qu1T
Banned
posted 29 April 2005 08:09 PM
EDT (US)
20 / 65
He said 7 30 not 8 30 hehe big difference. If you are untouched by the opponent (meaning hes a noob) its already hard enough to get 7 30 heroic with 40 ulfs I wouldnt imagine if hes any good at all.
TOAO_Power
Mortal
posted 29 April 2005 08:46 PM
EDT (US)
21 / 65
1) Ra sux on water.
2) Shooting Docks are gay imho, but they come in handy for a thor FH.
TOAO_Power
Mortal
posted 30 April 2005 01:08 PM
EDT (US)
25 / 65
My strat would work vs a 6:30 attack though too. I'll see if i can do it again, I stopped doing it for awhile because I am better at spamming longboats.