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Sith
Mortal
posted 19 March 2006 08:34 AM EDT (US)         
Website bugs can be reported here.
The staff will post some announcements here too.

[This message has been edited by CeaseDaFire (edited 10-07-2015 @ 07:59 AM).]

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WinstonShnozwick
Mortal
posted 10 December 2009 09:27 PM EDT (US)     211 / 538       
@ Hail - Lol, you must like the trigger loader alot.

@ Xzyiothe - IDK about the others, but I use Flock, it is surprisingly fast, which is why i use it. I like flock.

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HailToTheOboe
Bitten by a radioactive ostrich
posted 10 December 2009 09:45 PM EDT (US)     212 / 538       
I thought it was a good example of how line breaks are necessary for code.

I tried to post the whole thing, but the page wouldn't load, so I had to cut down to only about 1000 lines.
Peter Fallon
Mortal
(id: Xzyiothe)
posted 11 December 2009 04:44 AM EDT (US)     213 / 538       
Yes, you want to know how a browser becomes faster? They cut back on everything else (everything else being anti-exploit and security measures.) Don't use a browser I've never heard of (-minus whoever preached in the HoV about flock before, probably you). At least use one of the big five.

☭ Long live the Turk ☭
"Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
"Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
HailToTheOboe
Bitten by a radioactive ostrich
posted 17 December 2009 11:58 PM EDT (US)     214 / 538       
papaya
ಠ_ಠ
(id: X_MOSS)
posted 18 December 2009 00:01 AM EDT (US)     215 / 538       
FYI, flock is not 'some random browser.' It's based off of the firefox engine and rather popular I believe.

oh you can wait for what I can give
you know what I am so you know how I live
try to look proud but youíre not in the slightest
its happening now and itís always been like this.
Peter Fallon
Mortal
(id: Xzyiothe)
posted 19 December 2009 01:51 AM EDT (US)     216 / 538       
Yeah I know that now that I've read the wikipedia article.

Fact remains that it is clearly less secure than Firefox. Proof is in the previous posts where Flock encountered a site that distributes malware, whereas Firefox blocked it.

My point stands. It's known that browsers become faster when they sacrifice security. IIRC Winston is only using Flock because his connection is terrible and believes Firefox is crap because he's still using some primitive ISP.
Do web pages render differently in the Flock browser than in Firefox?

Web pages render exactly the same in Flock as in Firefox.
Use firefox. Flock isn't using some magic to load one second faster. If both browsers are rendering the same way it's clear that Flock is deliberately focused on being lighter weight (meaning less secure.)

☭ Long live the Turk ☭
"Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
"Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
Troy_Im_No_Noob
Mortal
posted 24 December 2009 09:56 AM EDT (US)     217 / 538       
There's too many noobs - we should ban everyone from AOMH.

1. Perfection is impossible.
2. Nothing is impossible.
3. There are always exceptions.
Fluttershy
Mortal
(id: Freaky2)
posted 24 December 2009 02:23 PM EDT (US)     218 / 538       
Yes, you want to know how a browser becomes faster? They cut back on everything else (everything else being anti-exploit and security measures.
Chrome is waay faster than Firefox, and just as safe.

You don't have addons like NoScript, but NoScript isn't a part of Firefox originally anyway.


But Chrome is faster because of the way it renders pages.
It does use more memory though.

(_̅_̅(̲̲̲̲̲̅̅̅̅̅̅(̅_̅_̲̅marij̲u̲̅an̲̅a̲̅̅_̅_̅_̅()
(is not as helluva drug as pepe)
papaya
ಠ_ಠ
(id: X_MOSS)
posted 24 December 2009 02:35 PM EDT (US)     219 / 538       
My firefox is currently using 700k, and I only have 4 tabs open.

oh you can wait for what I can give
you know what I am so you know how I live
try to look proud but youíre not in the slightest
its happening now and itís always been like this.
Peter Fallon
Mortal
(id: Xzyiothe)
posted 24 December 2009 02:39 PM EDT (US)     220 / 538       
I'm mostly saying a major browser should be used because of security, and updates. That's the main focus. Any will do, just Firefox the best choice in my opinion unless you're specifically using chrome for the tab control/add ons.

I don't really see speed as a factor. With a broadband connection chrome might be able to load many web apps fast, but firefox could just block them with ad blocker (which chrome doesn't have due to limitations in chromium, but they do have some less effective knock-offs.) Other than that, the time difference in rendering a normal page is of no consequence.

☭ Long live the Turk ☭
"Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
"Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
Elrich
Hero
posted 29 December 2009 09:37 AM EDT (US)     221 / 538       
In the last week or so my Norton has been blocking pages here on AOMH and citing this security breach:

--------------------------------------------------------------
RISK NAME: HTTP Fake AV install Request 4
ATTACKING COMPUTER mcafeevirusremover.com(193.104.153.2,80)
ATTACKER URL mcafeevirusremover.com/hitin.php?land=20&affid=93109

network traffic from mcafeevirusremover.com matches the signature of a known attack.

--------------------------------------------------------------

the domain mcafeevirusremover.com is a Russian federation fake antivirus adware install site. This happens occasionally on both my work and home computers and I think it comes from one of the randomly created ads that pop up at the top of the page.

In all your science of the mind, seeking blind through flesh and bone
Find the blood inside this stone
Well, I know I've never shown what I feel, I've always known
I plan my vengeance on my own - and I was always alone

[This message has been edited by Elrich (edited 12-29-2009 @ 09:38 AM).]

Shanks13
Rogue Agent
posted 29 December 2009 05:20 PM EDT (US)     222 / 538       
Pages on the forum or on the main site?

Fluttershy
Mortal
(id: Freaky2)
posted 29 December 2009 06:37 PM EDT (US)     223 / 538       
My firefox is currently using 700k, and I only have 4 tabs open.
Something's up with your Firefox.
Mine's using 115K.

(_̅_̅(̲̲̲̲̲̅̅̅̅̅̅(̅_̅_̲̅marij̲u̲̅an̲̅a̲̅̅_̅_̅_̅()
(is not as helluva drug as pepe)
WinstonShnozwick
Mortal
posted 29 December 2009 07:27 PM EDT (US)     224 / 538       
there was some damned antivirus live trajan program that just ****ed with a computer i was using, and also attacked a computer at home

and they happened while using aom
so what would be the most secure browser to use? and then, what should i have enabled on that browser to make it secure as possible.

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Shanks13
Rogue Agent
posted 29 December 2009 08:15 PM EDT (US)     225 / 538       
I think Elrich is probably right to the extent that it's an ad. If you're running a real-time AV, you should be fine. If you can provide the ads on the page you got the warning, that'd be even better.

Elrich
Hero
posted 29 December 2009 08:20 PM EDT (US)     226 / 538       
@Shanks: at least I know for sure it hit on the AOMH census page. I hardly have time for more than AOMH:S&D and HOV, so those are the only two I can really speak for and I'm pretty sure I've been hit in both forums. Let me know what you'd like me to check next time it happens.

p.s. I'm using IE 8.0 on an XP pro system using Norton Internet Security (latest version).

In all your science of the mind, seeking blind through flesh and bone
Find the blood inside this stone
Well, I know I've never shown what I feel, I've always known
I plan my vengeance on my own - and I was always alone
Shanks13
Rogue Agent
posted 30 December 2009 03:25 AM EDT (US)     227 / 538       
Hm, okay. That's weird. See if you can scribble down the ads that are on the page when you get a warning.

Peter Fallon
Mortal
(id: Xzyiothe)
posted 30 December 2009 03:48 AM EDT (US)     228 / 538       
so what would be the most secure browser to use? and then, what should i have enabled on that browser to make it secure as possible.
Mozilla Firefox.

To configure Firefox properly in options read this.

Add ons:
- NoScript. Block scripts globally. If there's a script you want you run e.g. youtube click the noscript icon and allow youtube. Do this with every site you trust. Eventually you'll teach the add on to only block untrustworthy sites.
- Web of Trust. Basically all users of this add on can poll their opinions for domains, and fetches the information so you know whether it's trustworthy/suspicious/phishing/other. For really low rated sites it'll block it like Firefox's internal attack blocker.
- Better Privacy - basically disallows super (undeletable) cookies.

Optional:
- Ad Block Plus. Block frames/images/scripts, nearly anything you don't want. If you have NoScript this is pretty redundant, but securing a Adblock blacklist would be smart in case NoScript is late to an update.
- Ghostery will block trackers. Same reason for with Adblocker, NoScript might miss an update. NoScript will block trackers with better control, but if you allow a domain with NoScript you may be susceptible to unwanted trackers, so basically it's just a backup.

☭ Long live the Turk ☭
"Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
"Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
Elrich
Hero
posted 30 December 2009 09:26 AM EDT (US)     229 / 538       
I just got it going straight into the LPW:

When this happens my browser goes to the standard IE page:
"Page cannot be loaded" cuz Norton blocks it from loading, so there is nothing to see on the page but here is the URL it was trying to take me to:

do not click/go to this link!!NOThttp://antyspyvarescanstore.com/hitin.php?land=20&affid=91702

I'm sure the page is one of those fake alerts that looks like a My Computer window with a popup saying a virus has been found, click here to clean the virus (i.e. to download the virus)

In all your science of the mind, seeking blind through flesh and bone
Find the blood inside this stone
Well, I know I've never shown what I feel, I've always known
I plan my vengeance on my own - and I was always alone
Peter Fallon
Mortal
(id: Xzyiothe)
posted 30 December 2009 10:30 AM EDT (US)     230 / 538       
Web report: http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-US&site=http://antyspyvarescanstore.com/hitin.php?land=20&affid=91702

Anyway I was curious. Had to completely disable attack blocking just to view it. It's safe to view as far as I know, as I have a real-time anti malware scanner. So the page source itself isn't infected. Just don't download and run the executable they try to send you.

'Course I don't recommend that at all. Shanks, that's the same one I emailed you about a few months ago.

Also: even though Google's advisory doesn't report malware in the past 90 days that's only because 'without user consent' doesn't extend to accepting the executable. The program is most definitely malware.

Avira Log:

Virus or unwanted program 'WORM/Koobface.bpy [worm]'
detected in file 'C:\Documents and Settings\User1\Desktop\install.exe.
Action performed: Deny access

Anyway as I knew what I was doing my computer isn't compromised. Not like an anti virus log was necessary because the page is a terrible scam in itself.

☭ Long live the Turk ☭
"Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
"Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil

[This message has been edited by Xzyiothe (edited 12-30-2009 @ 10:39 AM).]

Shanks13
Rogue Agent
posted 30 December 2009 02:23 PM EDT (US)     231 / 538       
As far as I know, ads can't cause an entire page to redirect, so something else is going on. Furthermore, since only Elrich and Xzy have reported it, I'm curious as to whether or not their computers have a virus that causes redirects? I'll see about sending PCD/Zen an e-mail.

WinstonShnozwick
Mortal
posted 30 December 2009 06:43 PM EDT (US)     232 / 538       
Ok, that antivirus one I said a computer got is probably the nastiest one out there. Once it gets in, you cant just hit cancel, it embeds itself in the system whether you like it or not. It is quite nasty. Kept making alerts and windows popup, and was controlling the computer, it started opening internet browsers to porn sites. Not kidding.

Anyway, xzy, so would those settings on mozilla completely block these trojan attacks that we are talking about? Like it wont let them happen?

edit: I also found that turning off javascript/java stopped the page ads, and the viruses from hitting the computer

edit: I also do not have any real antivirus programs or things that block stuff like that, because the ones like, norton, and mcaffee cost money, so I cant get them. So is there a good free download for a real virus/spyware/trojan/ protection/blocker that would work?

On my laptop a while ago, when I got a trojan called green antivirus, windows defender stopped it and said it was a trojan attacking. So how much help is windows defender and the programs that instantly come with windows 7/vista (what i have) against these attacks?

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6/12/1997, a day that will live in infamy.

[This message has been edited by WinstonShnozwick (edited 12-30-2009 @ 06:50 PM).]

HailToTheOboe
Bitten by a radioactive ostrich
posted 30 December 2009 06:50 PM EDT (US)     233 / 538       
Peter Fallon
Mortal
(id: Xzyiothe)
posted 30 December 2009 07:00 PM EDT (US)     234 / 538       
I'm curious as to whether or not their computers have a virus that causes redirects?
Nope, I did a full scan after my anti virus zapped the bug and I only received a warning about an unopenable file, which was legitimate.
Once it gets in, you cant just hit cancel, it embeds itself in the system whether you like it or not. It is quite nasty. Kept making alerts and windows popup, and was controlling the computer, it started opening internet browsers to porn sites. Not kidding.
Scan with a reputable anti-rootkit. They're tough to get out. You should probably back up data and reformat should your first attempts fail.
Anyway, xzy, so would those settings on mozilla completely block these trojan attacks that we are talking about? Like it wont let them happen?
It's still possible if you knowingly download a trojan, what your describing is more like a browser exploit. Firefox+noscript stops browser exploits, provided they don't get *much* more sophisticated.
edit: I also found that turning off javascript/java stopped the page ads, and the viruses from hitting the computer
Likely that you're only stopping one symptom of the virus, the browser exploits.
edit: I also do not have any real antivirus programs or things that block stuff like that, because the ones like, norton, and mcaffee cost money, so I cant get them. So is there a good free download for a real virus/spyware/trojan/ protection/blocker that would work?
Err, no there's a lot of free anti viruses.

AVG, Avast, Avira, etc. Out of those three, Avast and Avira have anti-rootkits in their free versions.
On my laptop a while ago, when I got a trojan called green antivirus, windows defender stopped it and said it was a trojan attacking. So how much help is windows defender and the programs that instantly come with windows 7/vista (what i have) against these attacks?
I've never used Windows Defender but it's better than nothing. It's specifically anti-spyware, but it scans in real time so it's decent to have. I recommend getting a real anti-virus.

☭ Long live the Turk ☭
"Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
"Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil

[This message has been edited by Xzyiothe (edited 12-30-2009 @ 07:11 PM).]

WinstonShnozwick
Mortal
posted 30 December 2009 07:48 PM EDT (US)     235 / 538       
Is it possible that these trojan biotches could infect a disk or flash drive?

Tired of unorigional, boring campaigns? Try out DEMO|Legacy - The Uprising|DEMO
Completely New Gameplay. Random Map Type Replayability. Delve into Nomadican|FEATURES|DOWNLOAD|
Want to know how to use triggers and/or create amazing factors in your scenarios? You need Combination Effects|FEATURES|DOWNLOAD|
Automaton Metals Textures, New Custom Triggers
Upcoming Projects: Legacy - The Uprising, Destiny
6/12/1997, a day that will live in infamy.
Elrich
Hero
posted 30 December 2009 08:37 PM EDT (US)     236 / 538       
*@Shanks: I might think so except it is only on the AOMH site AND has happened at my work computer as well as home and at both places I do quite a bit of browsing around without this problem. Both computers have full Norton Internet security on it. My home computer was completely consumed by a version of this virus and I could not entirely clear it out using root kits OR manually hunting down the parts (unfortunately it was the only SATA drive of all my computers so I couldn't make it a 2nd drive of another computer for cleaning), so I completely reinstalled xp on another drive to then clean the main as a 2nd drive, then reinstalled xp on the main drive and it has been clean since then under Norton's watch.

I am guessing it has to do with the randomly generated ad because everything else on the page is under your control and I can browse to a specific page, say the census, many times but it only happens about 1/100 times.

btw believers in free virus checkers: Avast did not do anything about blocking the web page attack or any detecting any of its residual parts. This was the nastiest, smartest virus I had ever seen and I have manually cleared several in my lifetime.

let me know if I can do anything to help figure this out. You have my email.

In all your science of the mind, seeking blind through flesh and bone
Find the blood inside this stone
Well, I know I've never shown what I feel, I've always known
I plan my vengeance on my own - and I was always alone
Shanks13
Rogue Agent
posted 30 December 2009 10:06 PM EDT (US)     237 / 538       
The chance that some ad on the site is infected is very small givne the number of visitors relative to the number or users reporting this redirect but still possible. I think this is possible as I back in November removed some malware from my employers computer. The malware was made so it only ran at a specific time after the computer was started, when it had done its deed (called home asking for new spam mails) is shut down automatically. This made it pretty difficult to find, actually I only found it by poor luck. I wouldn't wonder if infected ads could be made in a similar way so the malware only runs at a specif time of the day thereby making it more difficult to find. I still find there's a higher chance it is the computers belonging to the two users that are infected.

Peter Fallon
Mortal
(id: Xzyiothe)
posted 31 December 2009 02:12 AM EDT (US)     238 / 538       
Is it possible that these trojan biotches could infect a disk or flash drive?
Only if they're writable. If your flash drive isn't empty consider it infected, so don't use it on someone elses' computer until you confirm it's safe.

☭ Long live the Turk ☭
"Xzy is the worst parts of kman and legion combined, only with proper spelling so you know he's smart enough to act otherwise if he wasn't such an idiot." - theferret
"Xzy is like all of the terrible Guardian contributors rolled into one person. Proof that you can genetically engineer a humanoid abomination." - Fiindil
Socvazius
CEO
(id: Angel Socrateius)
posted 01 January 2010 06:28 PM EDT (US)     239 / 538       
This is an issue that HeavenGames is taking very seriously. Our advertisers should not be serving any kind of malicious advertisements. Because of this, I've decided to end our relationship with ValueClick, the ad network which has easily served the most problematic advertisements.

Unfortunately, I don't have enough information (such as a specific advertisement which leads to such malicious sites), so I'm not sure I'll be able to find any problematic ads right away on our current ad networks, but I'll keep looking. Please let me know (email me at socvazius@heavengames.com) if/when you find another ad and give me all of the information you can, and I'll get on it asap. Hopefully, taking out ValueClick will solve this problem for us, but our other ad networks will serve problematic ads at times as well.

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Shanks13
Rogue Agent
posted 01 January 2010 08:03 PM EDT (US)     240 / 538       
Wow. Thanks Soccy.

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