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Topic Subject:What civilizations would you like to see on this game?
Draco_Wolfgand
Mortal
posted 10 October 2019 11:37 AM EDT (US)         
The title should be self explanatory . Discuss what civilizations, with their respective mythologies, would you like to see added into the game. It can range from nothing but the barebones concept to something more complex( And of course, feel free to especulate on how such civilizations would/should actuall0y work within the context of the game. )

#1 Something based of Medieval Europe.

Yes, I know the Norse, technically, count, but what I meant was something more like feudal Europe. Something like... Actually, let me dig up the mod idea I once had.

http://aom.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/forums/display.cgi?action=ct&f=19,30069,,30

#2: The Aztecs( Or just any other Mesoamerican civ. )

They would have the gimmick of having no "true" cavalry units, but having a fast-moving infantry unit that would take its role... Like the Huskarl, except that probably cheaper, faster but weaker, and costing food rather then wood.

For how they would generate favor, it could be through sacrifice. Each and every one of their human units would have a "Sacrifice" option, which you can choose to kill then, and in exchange generate some amount of favor. While it means they can technically gain huge bursts of favor instantly, it also means that to generate favour in any kind of consistent manner would be a difficult and expensive process.
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Legendary Raider
Mortal
(id: avaget)
posted 10 October 2019 03:35 PM EDT (US)     1 / 10       
Slavs
okay hear me out here.. while I think adding just 1 slavic country, like Russia would be boring because mythos in general is not as interesting
but if you add Slav culture then you can pull the most interesting myths and stories from all the slavic countries!
WinterGod
Mortal
posted 10 October 2019 04:42 PM EDT (US)     2 / 10       


I also want a Mesoamerican civilization.

Here's the interesting thing, Olmec culture is really old. But we know nothing about their myths. We know a lot about Aztec and the Inca, but they are so recent, compared to the Ancient Egyptians.

I would use the Aztec names for the Gods, but use the Mayan buildings. And call the civ Olmecs.

I personally wouldn't use Human Sacrifice, for gameplay reasons and other personal reasons. Many ancient cultures, sacrificed humans for ritualistic reasons including Greeks, Egyptians, Chinese, and the Vikings. I would try to do something different with this civilization.

For Favor I would a socket based pyramid system. [Mayans were known for building temples on top of older temples]
Similar to the Egyptian Monuments, and AOM settlements, they could build Pyramid Level 2 on top of Pyramid Level 1, to gain Favor.

Well Know Aztec Gods:

Quetzalcoatl,Tezcatlipoca, Mictlāntēuctli, Huītzilōchtli Coatlicue, Xipe Totec...

Well Known Mayan Gods:

Kukulkan, Chaac, Bacab, Camazotz

I would Pick these 3 as the Major Gods:

Quetzalcoatl, Tezcatlipoca, Coatlicue
[Light] - [Darkness] - [Monster Mother]

Ahuizotl: Monster Dog, with a massive colorful branched tail. Similar to a Axolotl fish. [Walking fish]

Chaneque: Ancient elemental beings

Nagual: Shapeshifter. Depicted as a Half-man Half-Jaguar. [Similar to Batman Villain Two-Face]

Cihuateteo: Monster Mother spirits who died during childbirth.

Cipactli:Cipactli was a primeval sea monster, part crocodilian, part fish and part toad or frog

Quinametzin: Giants

Maya:

Vision Serpent: Giant Serpent with a Human Head.

Camazotz: Giant Demonic Bat creatures. Protectors of the underworld.

Other
Amaru: A colorful dragon from the Andean cultures.

Cadejo: Monster Wolf, that can stone people.

What's Different?
Each God gets a different Wizard/Priest

Economic Priest, Necromancer Priest, Warrior Priest...
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posted 20 October 2019 11:59 PM EDT (US)     3 / 10       
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Mazeppa
Mortal
posted 17 November 2019 07:35 AM EDT (US)     4 / 10       
A Sumerian civ would be nice to see (or any mesopotamian civ, in general)!

They have their own gods (Enki and Enlil etc), their own mythology (Gilgamesh; kings that have lived for 20,000 years; garden of eden) and their own history (some of their cities being among the oldest in the world), etc.

I mean, sure.. one may argue that their military may be similar to egypt, but that isn't always the case... e.g. melee chariots, macemen, bowmen, war lions, spearmen with square shields like in the stele of vultures etc... and game-wise, they could still be different, like giving peasants the option to become basic soldiers etc..


A nifty god power for them could be something like conscription (all queued units instantly trained); or a benefit of Enki (a starting god) that allows you to see all gold mines in the map, similar to Oranos' town-center thing; or a mythic god that has a "flood" god-power, like the great flood in their myths.

Their heroes could be nobles and are very weak, but their presence makes the units within a radius stronger (a bit like Arkantos, but permanent), which means they have to be kept alive, for a battle to play out in the sumerians' favor... the more nobles present, the stronger the nearby units..... And like how Greeks have kataskopos or Norse have ravens, Sumerians could have birds-of-prey as scout units, or falcons.


Either a Mesopotamian civ, which harnesses a lot of cultures and ethnic groups, or an Assyrian civ would be nice, which has its own unique blend. A phoenician civ is good too, but it's too similar to egypt, imo.

[This message has been edited by Mazeppa (edited 11-17-2019 @ 07:37 AM).]

KingKileskus
Mortal
posted 19 December 2019 06:19 PM EDT (US)     5 / 10       
I actually have been working on the sumerians for a while. I plan on posting my full outline some time, but I still have a lot to work out. Here's my list of Gods though:

Major
- Anu (God of the Sky)
- Utu (God of the Sun)
- Inanna (Goddess of Love and War)
Classical
- Dumuzid (God of Shepherds)
- Nanna (God of the Moon)
- Nammu (Goddess of Water)
Heroic
- Ninhursag (Goddess of Fertility)
- Ninurta (God of Agriculture and Hunting)
- Ereshkigal (Goddess of the Underworld)
Mythic
- Enlil (God of Air)
- Enki (God of Creation and Trickery)
- Nergal (God of Death and Disease)

Age is based on relative importance to the Sumerians.
KingKileskus
Mortal
posted 13 January 2020 11:46 AM EDT (US)     6 / 10       
Update (even though I don't know if anyone even saw the last post)

I'm working on an idea for a 4-Civ expansion for AOM, and I plan on posting what I have so far for each soon so I can get input/suggestions. The Civilizations I'm working on are:
1) Sumerians
2) Celts
3) Indians
4)Japanese
WinterGod
Mortal
posted 13 January 2020 07:36 PM EDT (US)     7 / 10       
I saw it, and I think that it's an amazing idea. There is quite bit of unexplored mythology in Mesopotamia. Unicorn myths were commonly used in the Persian and Middle Eastern Walls, before they were adapted by the Medieval European artists. And there are already several other Mythical creatures that can be used. Some of them are actually already in the Game!
Leviathan, Behemoth, and Roc are famous mythical creatures.
And I remember that there were more creatures in the Epic of Gilgamesh. Taurus the Bull, Humbaba the Giant, Enkidu the Wild Man.

I also really like your choice of Gods.

I like the other civilizations too, but be careful about India. That caused a lot of problems for Smite.

https://www.change.org/p/stop-denigration-of-hindu-gods-in-video-games-boycott-smite

I have to admit that I am bit surprised that India is such a popular choice among the AOM fans. In popular Media we usually don't see Indian mythical creatures or Deities. I personally don't even know a single one of the older gods, or the legendary creatures etc.

[This message has been edited by WinterGod (edited 01-13-2020 @ 07:41 PM).]

KingKileskus
Mortal
posted 16 January 2020 05:03 PM EDT (US)     8 / 10       
I personally chose India due to the fact that
A) I am personally very familiar with the history and culture of India
B) The Deities and Stories are very interesting compared to many other options
I also have heard that the complaining about SMITE was mostly a vocal minority.
WinterGod
Mortal
posted 16 January 2020 08:26 PM EDT (US)     9 / 10       
I am actually really curious, about India. Which minor gods would you pick, and how would this culture play compared to the others?
KingKileskus
Mortal
posted 17 January 2020 01:45 PM EDT (US)     10 / 10       
Soon enough I think I'll make my own topic to share all the info I have so far for these ideas, but here's the Hindu god list I have (Keep in mind that there are many different sects of Hinduism with different views on things, this is a synthesis of several of them):

Major
- Shakti (Great Goddess, Supreme being to Shaktas)
- Vishnu (God of Preservation, Supreme being to Vaishnavites)
- Shiva ( God of Destruction, Supreme being to Shaivites)
Classical
- Ganga (Goddess of Purity and the River Ganges)
- Surya (God of the Sun)
- Kali (Goddess of Power, Destroyer of Evil)
Heroic
- Agni (God of Fire)
- Ganesha (God of Success, Remover of Obstacles)
- Durga: (Goddess of War)
Mythic
- Lakshmi (Goddess of Prosperity)
- Parvati (Goddess of Divine Energy)
- Saraswati (Goddess of Knowledge and Art)
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